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Short-necked dinosaur challenges accepted theory
AP ^ | 6-1-05 | Anon

Posted on 06/01/2005 10:58:46 AM PDT by Pharmboy

The discovery of a short-necked dinosaur from the Late Jurassic period has turned on its head accepted theory that the long-necks ruled the roost, scientists said on Wednesday.

The skeleton of the pocket-sized dinosaur -- which was less than 10 meters (yards) long -- discovered in Patagonia goes against the grain of increased body size and neck length that typified sauropod dinosaurs.

"The long neck is a particular hallmark of sauropod dinosaurs and is usually regarded as a key feeding adaptation," scientists from the Bavarian State Collection for Palaeontology and Geology in Munich wrote in the science journal Nature.

They said the discovery of the short-necked specimen from a group of dinosaurs known as dicraeosaurids demonstrated a clear counter trend and "indicates that the ecology of dicraeosaurids might have differed considerably from that of other sauropods."

And in case of any confusion, the scientists led by Oliver Rauhut stress that the specimen is that of an adult not an infant or adolescent.

The researchers said they believed the short-necked dinosaurs of southern Latin America -- whose closest known relatives are to be found in Africa -- may have evolved to deal with specific feeding requirements.

"The tendency toward neck shortening in dicraeosaurids indicated that these ... were progressively adapting for low browsing and might have been specialized on specific food sources," they wrote.

They said it seemed the pocket dinosaur was adapted to feeding on plants one to two meters in height in contrast to their long-necked cousins the diplodocus which could feed off a far wider variety of vegetation.

"Whereas dicraeosaurids became specialized feeders by shortening neck length and thus apparently limiting absolute body size, diplodocids solved this problem in a radically different way, by greatly increasing neck length and thus potential feeding range," the scientists said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: dinosaur; evolution; extinction; necks
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No--it doesn't challenge THAT theory--just the theory about neck length in dinos.
1 posted on 06/01/2005 10:58:47 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: PatrickHenry

Ping...if this interests you.


2 posted on 06/01/2005 10:59:34 AM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Pharmboy
SHORT NECKED DINOSAUR:
3 posted on 06/01/2005 11:01:24 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin

Hey! No need to insult dinosaurs!


4 posted on 06/01/2005 11:03:53 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: BenLurkin

Couldn't we just ask him what he eats?


5 posted on 06/01/2005 11:03:59 AM PDT by gundog
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To: BenLurkin

Curious. It has an amazing resemblance to a red "X". :)


6 posted on 06/01/2005 11:04:15 AM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: Pharmboy

Long-necked dinosaurs remind me of fishermen with boats.


7 posted on 06/01/2005 11:05:35 AM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Pharmboy

But what about the pencil necked dinosaur??


8 posted on 06/01/2005 11:05:54 AM PDT by caver (In the words of that illustrious socialite twit Paris Hilton, "That's hot".)
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To: Pharmboy
"No--it doesn't challenge THAT theory..."

You know what they say, long neck.....

9 posted on 06/01/2005 11:06:42 AM PDT by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (People too weak to follow their own dreams, will always find a way to discourage yours.)
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To: Pharmboy

We've known about this for years..........

10 posted on 06/01/2005 11:07:05 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Goooooooogle your own name.............)
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To: gundog

"Nyyaaahhharrghhhh!"
11 posted on 06/01/2005 11:08:37 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin

I almost posted a Tom Harkin photo, but same difference.


12 posted on 06/01/2005 11:10:16 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: MississippiDeltaDawg
Be on the lookout for no-neck monsters.

;-)

13 posted on 06/01/2005 11:14:50 AM PDT by dighton
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To: Pharmboy

Call PETA! It'll want a full investigation at taxpayers expense.


14 posted on 06/01/2005 11:17:07 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Pharmboy

We're not all long necks.
15 posted on 06/01/2005 11:18:30 AM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Pharmboy

Is there ever a supply of tall plants without low lying
plants? I mean, if high neckers can survive, wouldn't the
low neckers survive also??? I can understand only high neckers surviving in area of palm trees only, but if
both plants are available wouldn't both survive...

but...suppose the short neckers, ate the roots of the
long , tall plants, wouldn't that eventually kill off
the long neckers...or if the long neckers could reach
down far enough to eat some of the short neckers food, they
could kill off the short neckers...but then, the
short neckers, while the long neckers were reaching down for
the short neckers food, could evolve teeth, to cut the
throats of the long neckers, and wipe out the long neckers,,
or the long neckers could evolve large feet to stomp the
short neckers, but then the short neckers could evolve
spikes on their back, so the long neckers would get
"punji" sticked to death, but then the long neckers could
get lighter, and jump, and eventually fly away from the
short neckers, and get food that the short neckers couldn't
possibly reach, but then....

huh?


16 posted on 06/01/2005 11:29:20 AM PDT by Getready ((...Fear not ...))
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To: Pharmboy

I saw some long necks recently..down at the local lover's lane.


17 posted on 06/01/2005 12:37:02 PM PDT by Redcitizen (One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter)
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To: Pharmboy
Thanks for the ping. Lemme mull it over. This is interesting, but it isn't really major news.
18 posted on 06/01/2005 1:05:30 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I report, you decide when to pull the magic twanger. It had a specific issue re dino evolution and theory, that's why I thought it might be of interest.

Cheers,
PB

19 posted on 06/01/2005 3:41:30 PM PDT by Pharmboy ("Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God")
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To: Pharmboy; VadeRetro; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; Right Wing Professor
I'm still mulling a general ping. And seeking some opinions from others. Meanwhile, we did have an active thread a few weeks ago about what was called a "transitional" dinosaur:
Newfound Dinosaur a Transitional Creature.
20 posted on 06/01/2005 4:28:08 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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