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Massachusetts Considers Mandatory Counseling For Troops
All Headline News ^ | August 16, 2005 | Douglas Maher

Posted on 08/16/2005 5:29:48 AM PDT by johnny7

Boston, Massachusetts (AHN) - The Massachusetts state legislature is considering mandatory mental health counseling for National Guardsmen returning from Iraq.

Currently, the uniform regulation for mental health screenings apply only for career military members and is usually done by questionaire. The state wants to screen the Guardsmen for Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome, a mental health disorder that commonly affects people who have been subject to life altering events. Symptoms include nightmares, flashbacks, depression and estrangement.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts; War on Terror
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1 posted on 08/16/2005 5:29:49 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7

The wussification of men continues.


2 posted on 08/16/2005 5:30:23 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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Massachusetts needs all of Massachusetts citizens to get mandatory mental health counseling.

For the rats it'll be to find out WHY they keep putting such losers as Kennedy and Kerry back into office, time and time again.

For Republicans the counseling will be for handling living with these morons.


3 posted on 08/16/2005 5:33:14 AM PDT by diverteach
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To: Gunrunner2
Can you say idiotic? I thought you could


4 posted on 08/16/2005 5:33:26 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: johnny7

I would tell the state of Massachusetts to kiss my a$$.


5 posted on 08/16/2005 5:34:09 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: johnny7

I think the troops should agree, but only if they get to run psychological profiles of the Mass. state legislature first.


6 posted on 08/16/2005 5:35:19 AM PDT by kevkrom (WARNING: If you're not sure whether or not it's sarcasm, it probably is.)
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To: johnny7

What about the "lifeguard"?

Why does he get an exemption???


7 posted on 08/16/2005 5:35:31 AM PDT by ChefKeith (If Diplomacy worked, then we would be sitting here talking.)
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To: Americanexpat

they need mental screening of the democRatic voters in MA.
They federal elected officials have committed more violent illegal acts than our returning troops..


8 posted on 08/16/2005 5:36:07 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: johnny7

Socialists want everything either mandatory or outlawed. With a jackboot on your throat making sure you follow orders


9 posted on 08/16/2005 5:37:28 AM PDT by ran15
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To: johnny7

All the liberals in Massachusetts need a dumb ass vacine!


10 posted on 08/16/2005 5:39:12 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Gunrunner2

This sounds like a very good idea. PTSD can have very serious consequences, but I hear that many soldiers feel that admitting to it is an admission of weakness. Making it mandatory will take away any stigma. Spotting problems early on will reduce health costs later on - assuming counselling is done competently, of course.


11 posted on 08/16/2005 5:40:18 AM PDT by ukman
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I don't think mandatory treatment would pass Constitutional muster. There's no risk of contagion -- no clear public health risk, and no crime. My bet is any Judge but the most radical nutcase would throw this out. Of course, as we know from the homosexual marriage demand of Mass. Judiciary -- that state is overrun with such radical nutcases. Still -- the Federal courts would toss this crap, I'd hope.


12 posted on 08/16/2005 5:40:46 AM PDT by bvw (Free Casey Sheehan's Good Name!)
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To: ukman

Are you on the right forum? Do you understand what the terms "Liberty", "inalienable individual rights", and "nanny-state" mean? On this forum they are NOT trumped by things that, well, "feel like such a very good idea".


13 posted on 08/16/2005 5:43:32 AM PDT by bvw (Free Casey Sheehan's Good Name!)
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There was a road-rage incident up here recently... involving a returning vet and knee-jerk legislation is what the ninnie-nannies on Beacon Hill do best.
14 posted on 08/16/2005 5:50:50 AM PDT by johnny7 (“I like ya, Lloyd. I always liked ya. You were always the best of 'em.”)
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"This sounds like a very good idea. PTSD can have very serious consequences, but I hear that many soldiers feel that admitting to it is an admission of weakness. Making it mandatory will take away any stigma. Spotting problems early on will reduce health costs later on - assuming counselling is done competently, of course."
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There's this itty witty little matter of confidentiality I'd like to mention, plus the question of who would be carrying out the screening. Would YOU like to be a returning veteran placed in the hands of the same sort of liberal therapy wackos who find repressed former life traumas, etc. all too eager to diagnose you as effed up by the war? How would you like that sort of diagnoses following you around?

Better to let the military take care of it's own.


15 posted on 08/16/2005 5:51:25 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: johnny7

Massachusetts should require counseling for those who continue to vote for Teddy and Kerry.


16 posted on 08/16/2005 5:52:31 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: bvw

Let him be... I bet he's a wealth of knowledge!


17 posted on 08/16/2005 5:52:47 AM PDT by johnny7 (“I like ya, Lloyd. I always liked ya. You were always the best of 'em.”)
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To: diverteach

Beat me to it.


18 posted on 08/16/2005 5:53:19 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: johnny7

I had this bumper sticker after 9-11 for a while....New York I'll fight for, but Massachusetts and California are on their own.


19 posted on 08/16/2005 5:53:20 AM PDT by badpacifist (Question Authority of public schools. Which thought police have your kids?)
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This may be a ploy by the Massachusetts liberals to deny 2nd amendment rights to veterans by having them "adjudicated" as mentally ill. That is an automatic disqualification for a firearm purchase on Form 4473.
20 posted on 08/16/2005 5:53:55 AM PDT by Myrddin
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