You are right. There's a lot of irony here.
Posted on 08/28/2005 1:35:42 PM PDT by wagglebee
Sen. John McCain rebuked his Senate colleague and good friend Chuck Hagel on Sunday, saying that the Nebraska Republican was wrong to claim last week that Iraq was becoming another Vietnam.
"Chuck Hagel is one of my dearest and best friends and will always be that," McCain told CBS's "Face the Nation." "We just have an honest disagreement here."
McCain said that in contrast to Iraq, South Vietnam "never had a legitimate government in Saigon that the people believed in and trusted."
The Vietnam war also featured "superpower engagement in a huge way," McCain added. "We have a problem [in Iraq] with the Syrians, but nothing like what the Chinese and Russians were doing with the North Vietnamese," he said
Another difference, said McCain: "If we fail in Iraq, the results will be cataclysmic. You'll see factionalization and eventual Muslim extremism and terrorist breeding grounds that I believe will pose a direct threat to the security of the United States."
"The whole situation is just very, very different," the Arizona Republican argued.
Last week, Sen. Hagel encouraged opponents of the Iraq war by claiming, "We are locked into a bogged down problem not unsimilar, dissimilar to where we were in Vietnam."
McCain also declined an invitation from "Face the Nation" host Bob Schieffer to repeat his earlier criticism of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
"It does not help in any way for me to get into some kind of a fight with the secretary of defense, since he is there," McCain said, after Schieffer asked about his statement last year that he had "lost confidence" in Rumsfeld.
"We're in a crucial time in our history," McCain said. "I think that I will do everything in my power to work with the secretary of defense. His continuance - or non-continuance in office - is up to the president. And I'll support the president."
Hagel is a supremely annoyng and irresponsible asswipe.
They're all RINOs.
McCain admonishing just about anyone gives me cause to pause.
Aw come on.
Here's hoping that McCain and Hagel argue with eachother until they burn up all the available oxygen in the room and both asphyxiate.
Many people here blindly put McCain and Hagle together as similar RINOS..but they are further apart on idealogy than just about any two GOP senators.
McCain:
Foerign Policy: He is as reliable a hawk as one can get. Supports war in Iraq and says attacking Iran cannot be ruled out. His criticism of the war is that we arent fighting hard enough
Domestic Policy: Huge RINO
Hagle
Domestic Policy: has supported ALL the President's initiatives, supports judges, not part of the gang of 14, supported all tax cuts, and opposes increases in federal spending. Quite conservative
Foreign Policy:
As bad if not worse than Kofi Annan
People here often have blind hate for both McCain and Hagel they dont stop to analyse these tow men. they are quite different.
That's exactly why this paradigm is being floated.
Heh heh heh...
McCain and Hagel... maverick troublemaker and pure buzzard puke.
There is some truth in what you say. I'm not denying it.
Unfortunately John loves to suck all the oxygen out of the room, focusing attention on himself instead of the polices of his president. More often that not, John has some tweak in his delivery that damns Bush policy at least in part.
I will never vote for the guy. If the RP every runs this schmuck for president, they can do it without my vote.
I admit he's not as bad as some, but IMO there are a lot better people than he to lead.
What ever would work to show both of these very ambitious pols for what they are.
Hagel is so out of touch with Nebraska people that he couldn't be elected to anything right now.....but I don't think he cares about that either.
LoL
It was in S.C. where the Rove spin miesters convinced the local folks to vote against their own personal interests as the present administration intoned the rubric to the large military population that 'help was on the way.' Help indeed arrived only if one deems a large force reduction and poorly micromangaging as well as understaffing and ill-equipping an expeditionary force fully engaged in a shoot-out to constitute 'help.'
A tutorial from one backstabber to another.
WRONG WRONG WRONG
You are right. There's a lot of irony here.
My Friend: I AGREE, AGREE, AGREE with you.
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