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Lying With Pixels
Technology Review ^ | July/August 2000 | Ivan Amato

Posted on 09/18/2005 7:22:24 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4

Last year, Steven Livingston, professor of political communication at George Washington University, astonished attendees at a conference on the geopolitical pros and cons of satellite imagery. He didn't produce evidence of new military mobilizations or global pandemics. Instead,

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; Technical
KEYWORDS: deceit; fraud; technology
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To: 1john2 3and4

I read that too. Does the word naive come to mind?


21 posted on 09/18/2005 7:58:09 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: 1john2 3and4
I'd rather not think about that.
22 posted on 09/18/2005 8:01:45 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: RadioAstronomer
You BET that word comes to mind. Is this the 'nucular' bomb of digital information?

....how this can be used just boggles the mind.

23 posted on 09/18/2005 8:02:49 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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To: 1john2 3and4

A thanks to FReeper "Reborn" for really starting this....


24 posted on 09/18/2005 8:03:43 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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To: 1john2 3and4

Doesn't matter if it was posted before: You hacked away so much from the article as to render this post totally useless.


25 posted on 09/18/2005 8:06:10 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Ummm, the link is apparently working, and I wasn't sure @ copyright issues, so....ummm gee, I apologize for your inconvenience.


26 posted on 09/18/2005 8:10:17 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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To: 1john2 3and4
Apolgy acceptede.

There is no point in excerpting to the degree that one cannot grasp the gist of the article. You may as well as have not posted at all.

27 posted on 09/18/2005 8:32:34 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2005, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: 1john2 3and4

The running man.


28 posted on 09/18/2005 8:36:56 AM PDT by mmercier (fiction before fact)
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To: eyespysomething
A whole new twist on "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?"

More like eternal life for the mindless...

WMDs?
What freepin' WMDs?

29 posted on 09/18/2005 8:39:14 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Gumlegs

Thanks for the laugh!


30 posted on 09/18/2005 8:42:20 AM PDT by 1john2 3and4
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To: All

I am sure this type of video tampering leaves some kind of evidence that an expert can spot


31 posted on 09/18/2005 8:46:36 AM PDT by Kewlhand`tek (What the hell was that? I hope it was outgoing!)
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To: 1john2 3and4
Seriously, I don't buy this. Technically, I would like to see it first, and also the results of expert analysis of the images...

Great confusion factor by the sandmaggots, though.
One can't underestimate the level of competence and intelligence of the bulk of the American people.

32 posted on 09/18/2005 8:47:12 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: Gumlegs; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Physicist

Hi!

Even though this is a five year old article, the engineering is valid. Pixel manipulation is becoming much easier for the average mainstream computer. Take a look at the advancements just from the year 2000. Moore's law in action.

Nvidia launched the GeForce256 in October 1999.

Compare the Geforce 256 -

http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.cfm?articleid=498

and the main processor back in 2000 (Pentium III) -

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/pentium3/

with todays 7800 gtx -

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1830246,00.asp

Add to that a good physics engine -

http://www.ageia.com/technology.html

And this CPU -

http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cell/Cell0_v2.html

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/cell-1.ars

Quite the contrast. What will the next five years bring?


33 posted on 09/18/2005 8:48:28 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: Kewlhand`tek
I am sure this type of video tampering leaves some kind of evidence that an expert can spot

Eventually it wont.

34 posted on 09/18/2005 8:49:33 AM PDT by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: 1john2 3and4
We do what we can.

For some serious ineptitude in the matter, see here: Stalinism at CAIR: photo doctored for Islamic correctness

Before:

Oops! Busted!:

We'll just fix it:

Notice, too, that the women in the audience were rendered more ... Islamically correct in the first image.

35 posted on 09/18/2005 8:54:50 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: 1john2 3and4

Bump for when I have more time.


36 posted on 09/18/2005 8:55:20 AM PDT by zeugma (Warning: Self-referential object does not reference itself.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
Eventually it wont.

I'm not sure that it does now. If the computer can be used to generate a photo negative, all bets are off. Given that we already have Hollywood movies in which this is done (and all movie prints shown in theaters are struck from photographic negatives), I doubt that there's any barrier but cost to anyone else.

37 posted on 09/18/2005 8:57:51 AM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: Gumlegs
"...And while he has no evidence yet that any government or nongovernment organization has deployed video manipulation techniques, real-time or not, for political or military purposes, he has no problem conjuring up disinformation scenarios. For example, he says, consider the impact of a fabricated video that seemed to show Saddam Hussein “pouring himself a Scotch and taking a big drink of it. You could run it on Middle Eastern television and it would totally undermine his credibility with Islamic audiences.”

This is another thing to consider. Remember when we were entering into Iraq? We had our embeded reporters broadcasting news for all to see. Nevertheless, the muslim's went right on believing Baghdad Bob's account of things. Many of them were honestly dumbfounded when "our" news turned out to be true. Just imagine, if local Palestinian (and other muslim) tv started showing Jews burning, rioting, and destroying the al aksa mosque only it wasn't really happening. A REAL RIOT with, perhaps, horrible consequences would erupt over there, and all over nothing but faked film. If we know how to do this, then I'm sure someone at al-jazzero knows how to also.

38 posted on 09/18/2005 9:25:33 AM PDT by Reborn
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To: Reborn
Many [Muslims] were honestly dumbfounded when "our" news turned out to be true. Just imagine, if local Palestinian (and other muslim) tv started showing...

Good point.


Kill your TV again bump.
39 posted on 09/18/2005 10:17:12 AM PDT by clyde asbury (#)
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To: dsc

film


40 posted on 09/18/2005 10:23:24 AM PDT by fella (Discontent is the want of self-reliance; it is infirmity of will -<I>Emerson</I>)
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