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1 posted on 10/17/2005 7:25:28 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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pantload


2 posted on 10/17/2005 7:30:35 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Free choice is not what it seems)
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What a bunch of BS. Interesting question though. What is the focus of this grand jury? I haven't seen it stated exactly what they are looking for. Hopefully it is quite broad and the liar Joe Wilson get his due.


3 posted on 10/17/2005 7:32:18 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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This woman was NOT covert for over 6 years. The left continues to push this lie. She's been at a desk job at the Pentagon for over 5.


4 posted on 10/17/2005 7:32:18 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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> ... the organized plot by White House officials
> to expose Valerie Plame ...

Well golly. No bias/agenda/spin here, eh?

Credibility meter snapped to zero when I hit that line.

Any reason to think the rest of the article isn't just
a waste of pixels?


7 posted on 10/17/2005 7:36:48 PM PDT by Boundless
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What did her W-2's say her employer was?
8 posted on 10/17/2005 7:37:17 PM PDT by Whispering Smith
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"Just because she did not live overseas full time does not mean she did not work overseas using her status as a non-official cover officer."

This could be true but for the inconvienient fact that she (1) worked and commuted openly at Langley, (2)Was featured in a vanity fair aritcle with the word 'spy' attached.

9 posted on 10/17/2005 7:37:22 PM PDT by tjg (Being a liberal means never having to grow up.)
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He is bad-mouthing Victoria Toensing's take on this...but from what I understand, Toesning helped WRITE the law, so she should know what it is...

and Larry Johnson is a Scott Ritter wannabe.


10 posted on 10/17/2005 7:37:25 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Please say a prayer, and hold positive thoughts for Texas Cowboy...and Faith.)
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Let's hope that pantload Larry Johnson is not advising anyone about counter-terrorism these days, because if his imbecilic op-ed in the NY Times two months before 9/11 is any indication his 'clients' would be in real trouble. He's the guy who argued that terrorism had become little more than a nuisance ala John 'Vichy' Kerry, even though anyone (even before 9/11) should have been able to see that just one huge attack killing thousands would throw all his numbers out the window.


11 posted on 10/17/2005 7:37:35 PM PDT by Enchante (Bill Clinton: "I did not have sex with any of the skeletons in my closet!")
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If you park your car in the CIA employee parking lot, you are not covert.


12 posted on 10/17/2005 7:37:45 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Wasn't there a Larry Johnson a few months back threatening someone that posted on FR?

Is this the same guy or is my memory getting worse?

13 posted on 10/17/2005 7:37:54 PM PDT by ken in texas
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President Bush is sending a clear message--it is more important to protect cronies than protect this country.

"Traitor Joe" Wilson.

Joe took the Islamicists' side,
When he said that the President lied.
Since the Times spread Joe's tale,
Please put them in jail
And, certainly, Joe should be fried

14 posted on 10/17/2005 7:38:04 PM PDT by syriacus (Don't look for medical breakthroughs to be accomplished by pro-abort or pro-euthanasia doctors.)
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"(4) The term "covert agent" means-- (A) a present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency-- (i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member is classified information, and (ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States; or (B) a United States citizen whose intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information, and-- (i) who resides and acts outside the United States as an agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency, or (ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an agent of, or informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investigation; or (C) an individual, other than a United States citizen, whose past or present intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information and who is a present or former agent of, or a present or former informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency."

Either my reading comprehension is addled or this definition of a covert agent just does not describe Valery Plame. Pay very close attention to the "and" and "or" usage in the above definition.

15 posted on 10/17/2005 7:39:13 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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She was not a covert agent, this guy is wrong.


16 posted on 10/17/2005 7:40:13 PM PDT by KenmcG414
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These lefties just don't get it. That clause in there, to wit: "...... and that the United States is taking affirmative measures to conceal such covert agent's intelligence relationship to the United States,..... " has real meaning here.

She regularly commuted to her place of employment at CIA headquarters at Langley ~ to get there she had to take several of the most heavily traveled and public roads in the United States ~ doesn't seem to me the United States was taking affirmative measures to conceal Valerie Plame/Flame/Plume's intelligence relationship to the United States. Otherwise she wouldn't have had a CIA parking permit on her car, nor would she have been commuting to that building from her home.

19 posted on 10/17/2005 7:41:17 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again? How'bout a double sarcasm for this one)
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Well, Larry-boy, if she was covert anytime in the past 5 years then she is a real bozo for donating to Algore so that her name and 'cover' company Brewster-Jennings is out there on the Internet for anyone to see, and then her husband making himself an international spectacle discussing his mission for the CIA in the NY Times ensured that interested intel agencies would not need too much effort to run down details on both of them. If Valerie Plame and Larry Johnson are supposed to be examples of the quality of our intel agencies then 9/11 and other terrorist attacks should not surprise anyone.


20 posted on 10/17/2005 7:42:18 PM PDT by Enchante (Bill Clinton: "I did not have sex with any of the skeletons in my closet!")
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This guy has it all wrong. Observe:

(4) The term "covert agent" means-- (A) a present or retired officer or employee of an intelligence agency or a present or retired member of the Armed Forces assigned to duty with an intelligence agency-- (i) whose identity as such an officer, employee, or member is classified information,

Yes, she fullfills (A)(i).

and(ii) who is serving outside the United States or has within the last five years served outside the United States;

She was not serving outside the US, and had not within the last 5 years been serving outside the US. (A)(ii)not fulfilled.

or (B) a United States citizen whose intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information, and-- (i) who resides and acts outside the United States as an agent of, or informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency,

Nope that's not her. (B) is satisfied but (B)(i) is not.

or (ii) who is at the time of the disclosure acting as an agent of, or informant to, the foreign counterintelligence or foreign counterterrorism components of the Federal Bureau of Investigation;

Nope she never worked for the FBI (that we know of)

or (C) an individual, other than a United States citizen, whose past or present intelligence relationship to the United States is classified information and who is a present or former agent of, or a present or former informant or source of operational assistance to, an intelligence agency.

Well she is a US citizen, so that disqualifies her from paragraph (C).

Am I making any mistakes here? Remember the ands and ors are very important.

22 posted on 10/17/2005 7:44:57 PM PDT by Oblongata
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OK, you posted this claptrap, I really want hear your take on it, please respond.


23 posted on 10/17/2005 7:47:42 PM PDT by TheHound (You would be paranoid too - if everyone was out to get you.)
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Larry Johnson was PART OF THE EX-CIA CONSPIRACY TO DEFEAT BUSH IN 2004! He was one of those running around with conspiracy theories and pimping the Joe Wilson and other related stories...

He's the least objective person on this topic you could possibly find ... except Joe Wilson himself.


26 posted on 10/17/2005 7:53:41 PM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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Larry Johnson quote (7/10/2001) -

"I hope for a world where facts, not fiction, determine our policy. While terrorism is not vanquished, in a world where thousands of nuclear warheads are still aimed across the continents, terrorism is not the biggest security challenge confronting the United States, and it should not be portrayed that way."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1447248/posts

And what happened two months later Larry?


27 posted on 10/17/2005 7:54:53 PM PDT by frankjr
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This is the only time I have seen the panties in a twist liberal democrat crud worried about national security. When Bugger was stealing documents they had nothing to say. The leftists who are now screaming national security are just hypocrites who have opposed the CIA/ NSA / DIA etc. 100% of the time.


28 posted on 10/17/2005 7:55:56 PM PDT by putupjob
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