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Evolution deniers will have rather long faces after reading this...


6 posted on 11/20/2005 1:27:13 PM PST by sourcery (Either the Constitution trumps stare decisis, or else the Constitution is a dead letter.)
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The way a baby lies down or sleeps sitting up also has an influence on head shape. Perhaps babies are sleeping in different positions and on different surfaces than they did 9,000 years ago.

People with more refined favial features may be more attractive to the opposite sex and therefore more successful breeders. That's not evolution.


15 posted on 11/20/2005 1:31:41 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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ID deniers will have a hard time attacking this.

Face shrinkage here has nothing to do with survival, imo. Much with politics and sin, imo...like the Chinese not marrying girls with big feet....though I do like those hungarians and people with narrow eyes look crosseyed stupid, imo.

To me it seems, in any case, that it has nothing to do with survival, but an appropriate fit to a more graceful life, something Darwinism rejects as a factor....well, they do have fixes such as motherly instinct and looks for survival...but this goes into a realm that is much more subjective, imo.


30 posted on 11/20/2005 1:44:58 PM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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Populations shift over time as do traits. Trait drift is not the same thing as macroevolution. Though the media and many scientists and "educators" insist to clouding what evolution is and isn't so that every biological discovery is written in evo-speak. I'm not sure what an evolution denier is being that evolution is not a monolithic idea. I personally believe that change occurs in species groups, one would have to be a fool to not believe that. Do I believe that trait drift otherwise known as microevolution produces new phyla? No I don't. I also don't believe in the "standard" model abiogenises. Belief in abiogenises and in macroevolution is a matter of faith not far removed from a belief in a deity. Talk of “evolution deniers” is a political statement not a scientific one, and when a scientist resorts to politics to force the acceptance or exclude the ideas of others the scientist should reconsider the strength of their ideas. I think it would be far better if modern scientists would take some guidence from Kant and stop the posturing in a futil attempt to use science as a weapon against "God". I think Darwin would be ashamed of the behavior of some of his progeny in as much as their inability to address openly and honesty the deficits of his theory nor expand it to include directed evolution.


62 posted on 11/20/2005 2:23:11 PM PST by Ma3lst0rm (It is natural selection all the way down.)
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"Evolution deniers will have rather long faces after reading this..."

After ROTFLTAO possibly :o)

142 posted on 11/20/2005 3:43:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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"Evolution deniers will have rather long faces after reading this.."

Oh, yeah...that really shows that humans are evolving into something else. Why, before you know it, we won't have faces at all. Please.

/heavy sarcasm off

239 posted on 11/20/2005 5:27:25 PM PST by Pablo64 ("Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.")
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