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1 posted on 11/29/2005 6:21:02 AM PST by EarthStomper
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It just seems to me that it would be in France's best interest to always root for the conservative candidate. Do they really want a peacenik running the U.S. when France is overrun by their Muslim population? They'll have to wait at least until the next election before we bail them out... again.


2 posted on 11/29/2005 6:25:31 AM PST by libertarianPA
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Hmmmm. The truth is coming out...


3 posted on 11/29/2005 6:35:14 AM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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Thanks for posting this. I've learned something new.


5 posted on 11/29/2005 6:48:47 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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Ipsos somehow managed massively to oversample Democratic voters.

You get what you poll for.

Reminds me of Twain's quote about lies, darned lies, and statistics.

6 posted on 11/29/2005 6:53:11 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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It seems we've gotten polled by France a few too many times since WWII.


7 posted on 11/29/2005 7:33:26 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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Ipsos is a French polling firm. Not that this should matter per se. But AP and Ipsos undoubtedly fear that to many Americans it might or that, in light of the current climate of Franco-American relations, it might at least raise
some doubts about Ipsos's impartiality and objectivity.

Some? Some doubts? How about not trusting them as far as they can be thrown?

8 posted on 11/29/2005 7:41:48 AM PST by GOPJ (The cost of launching an attack on America is high in spite of Dems trying to undermine defense)
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New Poll just in, 'Most Amercians think Polls not Honest'.


9 posted on 11/29/2005 7:56:16 AM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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Take a look at the AP/Ipsos Presidential approval polls for the past year. Gee, I never knew that there were so many more Democrats than Republicans. I wonder how Republicans ever win elections???

Just to add to the media polling bias, here is the recent history of the "ever-reliable" AP/Ipsos polls (January - November 2005) and their political Party ID sample composition for each poll. The AP/Ipsos polls push Independents to identify with either Republicans or Democrats, only the 'hard-core' remain as self-identified 'Independents'...

This is an mixed ADULTS and Registered Voters poll, not just registered voters. Note the consistant gap in the party ID between Democrats and Republicans, strange given the the 2004 Presidential Election exit polls identified 37% Republicans, 37% Democrats and 26% Independents among the voting American public. The Republicans have achieved voter self-indentification parity with the Democrats for the first time since the late 1920s.

This series of AP/Ipsos poll result on Presidential job approval and the American public views on the 'direction of the country' was as always based on a skewed demographic sample that averages 41% Republican, 49% Democrat and 10% Independent composition. I think that when the AP poll fails to get the results they desire, they 'play' with both the registered voters composition and vary the un-registered voter portion of the poll sample. Since the Registered voter portion of the poll averages around 78% and the 'breathing' voter averages around 22% you can see they have quite a bit of "statistical slack" to play with to get the results they require...


Presidential Approval Ratings
AP/Ipsos monthly Polls
(n~1,000 ± 3.1%)


  9-Nov 2-Nov 5-Oct 16-Sep 6-Sep August July June May April March February January
Republicans 40% 40% 40% 41% 42% 39% 42% 40% 42% 41% 39% 39% 43%
Democrats 51% 49% 48% 49% 48% 48% 51% 50% 49% 48% 47% 52% 49%
Independents 9% 11% 12% 10% 10% 13% 7% 10% 9% 11% 14% 9% 8%
Total: 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
                           
Registered 78% 80% 78% 77% 76% 79% 77% 80% 79% 82% 78% 76% 80%
Breathing 22% 20% 22% 23% 24% 21% 23% 20% 21% 18% 22% 24% 20%
Total: 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100% 100%
                           
Approve 37% 37% 39% 40% 39% 42% 42% 43% 47% 44% 48% 45% 49%
Disapprove 61% 59% 58% 57% 59% 55% 56% 55% 51% 54% 50% 54% 49%
Total: 98% 96% 97% 97% 98% 97% 98% 98% 98% 98% 98% 99% 98%


Note: The AP/Ipsos polls are published in PDF format and become unavailable after one month. You must be a 'premium' member to access those PDF files on their web site. No consistant links are provided for that reason.

Source: AP-Ipsos Poll, November 7-9, 2005 Project #81-5139-67

Hope this helps,

dvwjr

11 posted on 11/29/2005 12:37:24 PM PST by dvwjr
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