[rice08]

No I would see otherwise conservative people with a conservative vison home and abroad win.

Let's put it another way, this is an argument I use against liberals when it comes to defending the republican "pro-life" position since say 1981 we had 8 years of the gipper, bush 1 and bush 2, 11 years of a republican house and a total of what, 8 years republican senate. Countless progress on the state level on governors and legislators.


what precisely has been done to reduce the number of abortions?

this is a hearts and minds issue, a MORAL issue if you will, not a legal one. Did Prohibition stop people from drinking?

an well educated person with a good job and a steady life is far far far far far less likely to not only get pregnant or get someone pregnant out of wedlock, they are far less likely to have an abortion.

to put it another way, what good is a RINO if all he manages to do is get the faithful out to vote on election day by promising something that he has no intention of delivering on.

[Casloy]

this is a hearts and minds issue, a MORAL issue if you will, not a legal one

It's not a hearts and minds issue, it is a legal issue. You can pass a million laws and people will still do evil, but that doesn't mean you simply change the law. Kids will always be victims of sexual abuse, but that doesn't mean you rid yourself of the problem be eliminating the penalty for doing it. Using your logic one could even argue that if you legalized sex with children, there is less likelyhood the attacker won't kill his victim to cover his crime. That is the argument made by pro-abortionists, that somehow keeping it legal keeps it out of back alleys.