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Drug-policy official fails to sway Senate--committee sends medical marijuana bill forward
The New Mexican ^ | January 28, 2006 | Steve Terrell

Posted on 01/29/2006 8:42:11 PM PST by cryptical

The Bush administration got involved in New Mexico’s medical marijuana issue Friday, sending a top drug-policy administrator to testify against SB158.

But David W. Murray, a special assistant to national drug czar John Walters, had little or no effect on the Senate Judiciary Committee, which gave the measure a do-pass with bipartisan support.

And some senators said Murray’s presentation was heavy-handed .

Murray told the committee that marijuana is an addictive substance with very serious health consequences , has no proven medical value and can lead to “serious mental illness ,” depression and suicide.

He likened medical-marijuana proponents to “medicine shows, traveling charlatans and snake-oil salesmen” selling phony “tinctures, magical herbs and remedies.” Murray said medical marijuana is an issue that has been brought forth not by the medical profession but by advocates of drug legalization.

“They use emotion, they use suffering patients, they use anecdote,” he said. And in a statement that some committee members criticized, Murray added: “I regard much of that as cynical and manipulative.”

Senate Majority Leader Michael Sanchez, D-Belen , took him to task for those words, pointing out that sponsors of crime legislation often bring victims of crimes to testify without being called “cynical and manipulative .”

“I don’t know how you do it back East,” Sanchez told Murray, “But this is the people’s house. Everybody has a right to be here just as much as you do. When you said this to us, you showed us where you were really at. I don’t think you should go to a state and say such things about their people.”

Some of Murray’s toughest criticism came from Republicans on the Judiciary Committee.

Noting his argument that marijuana has no medicinal value, Sen. Clint Harden, R-Clovis , said, “We are not talking about the healing power of marijuana. The purpose of this is to reduce pain.”

Murray noted that the federal Food and Drug Administration has not approved marijuana for medical treatment. The FDA, not politicians, should make some determinations, he said.

Sen. Rod Adair, R-Roswell , disputed statements by Murray and some state law-enforcement representatives that medical marijuana will increase use of the drug. He compared the bill to the concealed-carry law, which lets people apply for permits to carry hidden guns. Some opponents said that law would give criminals the right to carry concealed weapons.

“But robbers are already doing that,” Adair said. Likewise, those who smoke marijuana illegally are doing so without a medical-marijuana law, he said.

Sen. John Grubesic, D-Santa Fe, told Murray he had a hard time accepting the claim that medical marijuana is “the huge bogey man you want it to be.”

But Sen. Bill Payne, R-Albuquerque , said the bill boils down to a state challenge of the federal Controlled Substances Act and “whether or not the government has the right to control drugs.”

The bill’s sponsor, Sen. Cisco McSorley, D-Albuquerque , responded that all it does is tell a small number of medical patients that the state will not prosecute them for using marijuana.

The measure goes on to the Senate floor, where a spokesman for the Senate said it could be heard as early as Tuesday. Last year, a similar bill that the Senate passed died in the House.

SB158 would let patients with debilitating medical conditions, including cancer and AIDS, use marijuana to treat pain and nausea caused by serious diseases and in some cases the side effects of treatment for those diseases.

The state Department of Health would administer a program under which doctors would be allowed to recommend marijuana for their patients. The marijuana used in the program would be grown in a secure facility by the state or a private agency contracting with the state.


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The usual dog and pony show didn't work. Now the ONDCP will have to go back and tune up their presentation so it's not as insulting to the rubes in the sticks.
1 posted on 01/29/2006 8:42:12 PM PST by cryptical
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Medical marihuana doesn't have quite the same lobbying power as Pfizer and Merck. I guess oxycontin is pretty nutritous though.


2 posted on 01/29/2006 8:55:35 PM PST by sangrila
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Yeah, it's hard to make a huge profit on a medicine that you can easily grow in your back yard.


3 posted on 01/29/2006 9:00:28 PM PST by alicewonders
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The state Department of Health would administer a program under which doctors would be allowed to recommend marijuana for their patients. The marijuana used in the program would be grown in a secure facility by the state or a private agency contracting with the state.

This program will be hard to abuse, unlike California's. The pot advocates can't be too happy about that.

4 posted on 01/29/2006 9:05:54 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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This is your government. This is your government on pharmaceutical lobbying cash.


5 posted on 01/29/2006 9:06:45 PM PST by SpaceBar
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It happens every time a state does this, so I should stop being amazed: WTF is a federal official using our federal tax dollars doing in a state trying to influence its internal legislative matters? Where's a state senator with the balls to tell these out-of-staters to get the hell out?


6 posted on 01/29/2006 9:09:55 PM PST by antiRepublicrat
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If NM wants this, then let them have it. With the drug being grown by the goverment, seems pretty controlled. Basically it seems like a States-rights issue.


7 posted on 01/29/2006 9:10:22 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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Murray told the committee that marijuana is an addictive substance with very serious health consequences , has no proven medical value and can lead to “serious mental illness ,” depression and suicide.

One more reason not to use it:


8 posted on 01/29/2006 9:13:20 PM PST by Mojave
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Murray told the committee that marijuana is an addictive substance with very serious health consequences , has no proven medical value and can lead to “serious mental illness ,” depression and suicide.

Typical big government hysteria against an herb that has been grown and consumed since the dawn of time.

9 posted on 01/29/2006 9:15:18 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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can lead to “serious mental illness ,” depression and suicide.

What a load of BS.


10 posted on 01/29/2006 9:15:42 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle
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To: Mojave
Looks like the pot advocate theme on this thread will be "it's a conspiracy."

That picture reminds me of the long term pot users I've known, rude and angry.

11 posted on 01/29/2006 9:17:08 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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CAUSES dpression suicide, and mental illness? What in the hell evidence has been found that it causes any of these things?


12 posted on 01/29/2006 9:17:32 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle
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Maybe if NM would grow marijuana along the border, the Bush administration would finally send border agents to police the borders.

The feds have no problem meddling with states' business except when it comes to aprehending and deporting illegal aliens.

13 posted on 01/29/2006 9:17:33 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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Where's a state senator with the balls to tell these out-of-staters to get the hell out?

He's in the article: "Senate Majority Leader Michael Sanchez, D-Belen , took him to task for those words, pointing out that sponsors of crime legislation often bring victims of crimes to testify without being called “cynical and manipulative .”

“I don’t know how you do it back East,” Sanchez told Murray, “But this is the people’s house. Everybody has a right to be here just as much as you do. When you said this to us, you showed us where you were really at. I don’t think you should go to a state and say such things about their people.”"

14 posted on 01/29/2006 9:18:47 PM PST by SedVictaCatoni (<><)
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That picture reminds me of the long term pot users I've known, rude and angry.

So you concede that you smoked some pot too and had a bad trip? Kewl!

15 posted on 01/29/2006 9:18:53 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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herb that has been grown and consumed since the dawn of time.

And it's rich in magic and unicorn giggles.


16 posted on 01/29/2006 9:20:35 PM PST by Mojave
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CAUSES dpression suicide, and mental illness? What in the hell evidence has been found that it causes any of these things?

The numbnut who said this must have been on real drugs such as LSD or PCP.

17 posted on 01/29/2006 9:20:51 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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...This is your government. This is your government on pharmaceutical lobbying cash....

Sad but true.


18 posted on 01/29/2006 9:21:39 PM PST by planekT (<- http://www.wadejacoby.com/pedro/ ->)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"police the borders."

That's a good one. They can't make any money off that. That's less profitable than if marijuana replaces some drug that Johnson & Johnson manufactures.


19 posted on 01/29/2006 9:24:36 PM PST by sangrila
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And it's rich in magic and unicorn giggles.

Actually, the preferred method of smoking pot is through "blunts," which are hollowed-out cigars, although most people use good-old Zig-Zag cigarette papers.

Nice try at posting a pic that probably represent a miniscule fraction of marijuana users.

20 posted on 01/29/2006 9:25:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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