Australian firm proposes LNG terminal in ocean off Malibu coast (22 miles offshore)

AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 3/16/06 | Tim Molloy - ap

[Koblenz]

Here in CT a proposed LNG terminal 11 miles offshore is meeting fierce and futile resistance. Futile because the terminal is in NY state waters... Doesn't stop people from complaining though. Yes, it's 11 miles offshore and they are concerned about terrorism, supposedly. Like the blast radius would be 11 miles.

[Mike Darancette]

NIMBY - The entertainers will be able to see it using a powerful telescope.

[Spktyr]

Yes, but if they put it 13.1 miles out, it's international waters, IIRC.

[Crispus Attucks Patriot]

Actually, when LNG goes back to a gas it expands to several hundred times its liquid volume.

In Cleveland in the 40's an East Ohio Gas storage terminal sprung a leak and the resuling explosion destroyed over 100 square blocks, burned down over 1,000 houses on the east side, and melted over 60 cars.





It can also travel miles through the air before reaching the inevitable spark. A pretty good thriller by Basil Jackson titled "The Night Manhattan Burned" is a page -turner, hehehe.

[Arthalion]

It's not really NIMBYism when the entire region, including the entire city of Malibu itself, sits on top of an active earthquake zone that likes to let a big one rip every decade or so. EQ's aren't a hypothetical threat here...it WILL happen, sooner or later. The people of Malibu just don't want one of these ships sitting in their harbor the next time mother nature decides to shake things up. Considering the destructive potential of these ships, I have to say that it's a reasonable fear.

That said, andchoring and offloading the LNG 20+ miles offshore seems like a great compromise.

[CBart95]

No way. It's Intntl. waters and also, still very visible.

Would ruin Babra Striesand's view.

Move it north to offshore Ventura County...out past the Naval Station at Port Huenme.

Rule of Thumb: Suspect all Australian proposals. It's still a penal colony.

[Claytonbridge]

Not a fair comparison to todays technical advancements in storage and safety. Like comparing pictures of the old San Francisco earthquake and subsequent fires that destroyed the city, to today's rebuild of the city with new fire, safety, and construction codes.

I am confident that if you'd analyze the codes such a facility would have to be built with safety concerns would not be as much of an issue.

But just scaring people will stop anything new from taking place.....airplanes, high speed rail, cruise ships with huge numbers of passengers.....and on and on.

[Claytonbridge]

I say the Government should take back all the property from closed coastal bases and use that for LNG terminals, especially in California. Quit giving cities like SF huge bases, then having to clean them up.....instead save them for "the greater good".

[CBart95]

May the Lord save us from whatever people from SF think might be "The Greater Good"!

But we understand how you folks can't help yourselves from playing God.

It's truly amazing how so many folks who know absolutely nothing seem to have all the answers.

[rightinthemiddle]

"It's truly amazing how so many folks who know absolutely nothing seem to have all the answers."

________

Now that's true. Why do we look to the people who have the problems for the answers?

The Democrats send their best into politics. Republicans send those who have the time.

[calcowgirl]

The larger pipe would come ashore in an industrial area near Los Angeles International Airport, said Jane Cutter, president of Woodside Natural Gas...

I wonder what "industrial area" they are talking about.

[NormsRevenge]

Would ruin Babra Striesand's view.

lol .. first thing I thought of too was Babwa&FRiends view going to be effected.

She's probably against a proposed wind mills farms off Cape Cod as well... she could power a couple wind turbines all by her self.

I don't think the potential blast area in a LNG scenario is more than a few miles , I could be wrong.

The special effects in movies probably tends to be a bit misleading and probably not a good basis to calculate why 22 miles and not 6 or 3 ..

[Carry_Okie]

I like it.

[Mike Darancette]

it WILL happen, sooner or later

My hometown has accepted the certainty that an earthquake will happen here.

Our Class "A" Baseball team is called the Quakes, they play in the Epicenter and the mascots are "Tremor" and "Aftershock".

[CBart95]

Dead-panned plagarism is my middle name.

I resemble your remarks and will claim to the death that you made them first.

[CBart95]

Actually, according to the South Bay Daily Breeze today, the location is purported to be 27.xx mi. north of Santa Catalina Island in the great deep coastal channel where the supertankers ply their trade.

That way, Babra could see it and so could most everyone along the So. Cal coast. (charming!)

The coastal landfall will probably be El Seguendo at the Chevron refinery there.( hard by the south side of LAX.)

[null and void]

Move it north to offshore Ventura County...out past the Naval Station at Port Huenme.

Or put it on the backside of Catalina Island...

[null and void]

"It's truly amazing how so many folks who know absolutely nothing seem to have all the answers."

Yeah. The loudest and most 'authoritative' child rearing Nazis are always people who have no children of their own...

[CBart95]

What and ruin the only pristine left in So. Calif.?

Think not.

But , thanks for living up to your screen name.