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1 posted on 04/28/2006 5:59:41 AM PDT by The_Victor
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2 posted on 04/28/2006 6:00:16 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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ARCHAEOLOGY: New Carbon Dates Support Revised History of Ancient Mediterranean
Science Magazine | 4/28/2006 | Michael Balter
Posted on 04/27/2006 7:59:30 PM EDT by Lessismore
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4 posted on 04/28/2006 6:03:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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5 posted on 04/28/2006 6:03:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Now, a resolution has finally emerged -- initiated, quite literally, by an olive branch.

I read the article and I don't think this will resolve things that fast. Apparently there are stubborn supporters for both sides!

6 posted on 04/28/2006 6:04:01 AM PDT by ahayes (Yes, I have a devious plot. No, you may not know what it is.)
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Herodotus writes:

"It happened that at this very time Theras, son of Autesion (whose father Tisamenus was the son of Thersander, and grandson of Polynices), was about to lead out a colony from Lacedaemon. This Theras, by birth a Cadmeian, was uncle on the mother's side to the two sons of Aristodemus, Procles and Eurysthenes, and, during their infancy, administered in their right the royal power. When his nephews, however, on attaining to man's estate, took the government, Theras, who could not bear to be under the authority of others after he had wielded authority so long himself, resolved to leave Sparta and cross the sea to join his kindred. There were in the island now called Thera, but at that time Calliste, certain descendants of Membliarus, the son of Poeciles, a Phoenician. (For Cadmus, the son of Agenor, when he was sailing in search of Europe, made a landing on this island; and, either because the country pleased him, or because he had a purpose in so doing, left there a number of Phoenicians, and with them his own kinsman Membliarus. Calliste had been inhabited by this race for eight generations of men, before the arrival of Theras from Lacedaemon.)"


8 posted on 04/28/2006 6:06:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Lasken notes that some Linear B tablets contain Latin terms, and must date after circa 207 BC. This is not to say that they all must, nor does it take into account the fact that Latin is older than this and the loan vocabulary could have resulted from the extensive commerce. However, none of it works under the conventional chronology, with its imaginary and quite modern "dark age" between the Mycenaeans and classic Greeks.
A Proper Dating of the Linear B Tablets
by Jesse E. Lasken
ESOP 1993 v 22
While there is general agreement that the language of the Linear B tablets was Greek, many words lack clear cut Greek etymologies and have not been satisfactorily translated. This has led to suggestions that the tablets may contain a sort of jargon combining several languages. I will demonstrate the equivalence of the Mycenaean terms ko-re-te, po-ko-re-te, e-qu-ta, and ra-wa-ke-ta [with] the Latin terms curator, procurator, equite, and legatus and discuss other evidence suggesting that Latin was included in the Linear B tablets. I am not disputing that Mycenaean is a Greek tongue; however, the scribes who prepared these tablets were also using, to a limited extent, certain Latin terms and constructions.
207 BC? Aw, that's just a coincidence... ;') There is one eruption attested in surviving ancient sources (and Herodotus isn't it -- he has quite a lot about the island) -- circa 199 BC. Here's something additional on the topic:
The Linear B Tablets
and Mycenaean Social, Political,
and Economic Organization

Prehistoric Archaeology of the Aegean
Trustees of Dartmouth College
Revised: Friday, March 18, 2000
KO-RE-TE, PO-RO-KO-RE-TE [koreter, prokoreter] -- Such officials are known at both Knossos and Pylos. The titles bear a suspiciously close resemblance to the Latin terms curator and procurator ("guardian" and "manager, imperial officer/governor" respectively). The Linear B evidence suggests that the koreter was a local official in charge of one of the sixteen major administrative units within the Pylian kingdom, and the prokoreter was evidently his deputy.

11 posted on 04/28/2006 7:59:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Identification of Aniakchak (Alaska) tephra in Greenland ice core challenges the 1645 BC date for Minoan eruption of Santorini
Nicholas J. G. Pearce
John A. Westgate
Shari J. Preece
Warren J. Eastwood
William T. Perkins
Abstract: Minute shards of volcanic glass recovered from the 1645 ± 4 BC layer in the Greenland GRIP ice core have recently been claimed to originate from the Minoan eruption of Santorini [ Hammer et al., 2003 ]. This is a significant claim because a precise age for the Minoan eruption provides an important time constraint on the evolution of civilizations in the Eastern Mediterranean. There are however significant differences between the concentrations of SiO2, TiO2, MgO, Ba, Sr, Nb and LREE between the ice core glass and the Minoan eruption, such that they cannot be correlatives. New chemical analyses of tephra from the Late Holocene eruption of the Aniakchak Volcano in Alaska, however, show a remarkable similarity to the ice core glass for all elements, and this eruption is proposed as the most likely source of the glass in the GRIP ice core. This provides a precise date of 1645 BC for the eruption of Aniakchak and is the first firm identification of Alaskan tephra in the Greenland ice cores. The age of the Minoan eruption of Santorini, however, remains unresolved.

12 posted on 04/29/2006 4:27:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Catastrophism

13 posted on 04/29/2006 4:45:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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