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1 posted on 05/28/2006 5:32:51 AM PDT by billorites
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A handful of skeptics maintain that Global Warming is a hoax

If a lie is repeated often and loudly enough, it will become the truth.

2 posted on 05/28/2006 5:35:32 AM PDT by ECM (Government is a make-work program for lawyers.)
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Just out of curiosity, I did a little research on CO2 in soda. If Global Warming is a real threat, immediately outlaw all sodas. The CO2 is manufactured (not natural) and the amounts are very significant. Every burp you make is a nail in our coffin.

Down with DIET COKE! Down with Mt. Dew! Away, Pepsi Killers!


3 posted on 05/28/2006 5:36:41 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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I hate being duped by a "hoaz"....whatever that is.

;-)

4 posted on 05/28/2006 5:37:58 AM PDT by edpc
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Maybe this wil help you decide.

Al Gore believes frvently in Global Warming.
Has Al Gore ever been right?/About Anything?

Now taking into account that even a broken clock is right twice a day, Do we really want to rely on people like Al Gore to determine the way we live?


6 posted on 05/28/2006 5:41:43 AM PDT by sgtbono2002
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The Tempest: A handful of skeptics maintain that Global Warming is a hoaz

That is a profound insight but "hoaz" should be spelled properly for it to make sense -HOSE!

7 posted on 05/28/2006 5:42:19 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them OVER THERE than here.)
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"I've been in meteorology over 50 years. I've worked damn hard, and I've been around. My feeling is some of us older guys who've been around have not been asked about this. It's sort of a baby boomer, yuppie thing." (Gray said)

Another section:

Our Friend CO2

Ten years ago, Fred Smith says, the Competitive Enterprise Institute had contributions from companies across the board in the petroleum industry. It still gets money from Exxon Mobil, the biggest and most hard-line oil company on the climate change issue, but many of its donors have stopped sending checks.

"They've joined the club."

The club of believers in global warming.

The executives don't understand "resource economics." They lack faith in the free market to solve these issues. And they go to cocktail parties and find out that everyone thinks they're criminals.

"Or their kids come home from school and say, 'Daddy, why are you killing the planet?'"

Smith never sounds morose, though. He's peppy. He thinks his side is still winning the debate. Look at the polls: Americans don't care about global warming.

He'd like to get people believing once again in good old-fashioned industrial activity. CEI has created a new public-service TV spot. Smith and several colleagues gather round as we watch it on a computer monitor. The ad begins with images of people picnicking in Central Park on a beautiful day. A child is shown blowing the seeds of a dandelion. A woman's voice, confident, reassuring, says that all these people are creating something that's all around us:

"It's called carbon dioxide," she says, "CO2."

There's an image of an impoverished woman hacking the ground with a hand tool.

"The fuels that produce CO2 have freed us from a life of backbreaking labor."

We see kids jumping out of a minivan. There are politicians out there who want to label CO2 as a pollutant, the narrator says. We return to the child blowing the dandelion seeds.

"Carbon dioxide: They call it pollution. We call it life."

Good grief! I learned in high school that we all exhale CO2. Global warming by CO2 is a joke.

11 posted on 05/28/2006 5:50:08 AM PDT by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!!!)
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Hansen may be a step ahead of the consensus -- but that doesn't mean he's wrong. In the brutally hot summer of 1988, Hansen testified before Congress that the signal of global warming could already be detected amid the noise of natural climate variation. Many of his colleagues scoffed. They thought he'd gotten ahead of the hard data. Judy Curry, a Georgia Tech climate scientist, says: "I thought he was playing politics. But, damn it, he was right."

Typical of the media and this article: quote an alarmist, invent a skeptic, convert the skeptic, ergo, the alarmist was right.

The article is a poor excuse for a debate or even feature on skeptics. But it nicely represents the media position: alarmism is mainstream and cool, skepticism is "fringe".

14 posted on 05/28/2006 5:50:42 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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The skeptics have a final trump in the argument: Climate change is actually good. Growing seasons will be longer. Plants like carbon dioxide. Trees devour it. This demonized molecule, CO2, isn't some kind of toxin or contaminant or pollutant -- it's fertilizer.

This is what my husband always says - why don't they ever talkabout the increase in land you can grow on!!

And I say, why is Greenland called Greenland - maybe it used to be green!!! (And farmable)

16 posted on 05/28/2006 5:54:34 AM PDT by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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An interesting graph:

http://www.clearlight.com/~mhieb/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html#anchor147264

Check out the whole article, too.


17 posted on 05/28/2006 5:54:56 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault ("..this administration is planning a 'Right Wing Assault' on values and ideals.." - John Kerry)
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THANK YOU for linking to the Printer Friendly version of the article.

Those of us trapped in 56K dialup HELL really appreciate it!

Comforting to hear there are expert skeptics out there. You go!

18 posted on 05/28/2006 5:55:50 AM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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And they go to cocktail parties and find out that everyone thinks they're criminals. "Or their kids come home from school and say, 'Daddy, why are you killing the planet?'"

This is what drive all leftist drivel, shaping peer pressure.

I keep hearing this PSA on radio about heat waves, cold wave, drought, floods, tornadoes, and hurricanes and ending with don't you think the earth is warning us? Change earth to God and the leftist would be all over the ad.

19 posted on 05/28/2006 5:58:35 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
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Is hoaz hugh and series?


20 posted on 05/28/2006 6:00:23 AM PDT by razorback-bert (Kooks For Kinky)
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Bill Gray is the best kind of genius -- influential.


21 posted on 05/28/2006 6:02:53 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Ain't FReedom grand!)
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Bottom line: Global warming is NOT a hoax. That man's activities cause it or are making it greater IS a hoax and a lie. Spread the word, y'all. We ain't doing it.


22 posted on 05/28/2006 6:02:55 AM PDT by szweig
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The wannabe Marxists are continually searching for reasons to attack capitalism. "Global warming" is merely the latest weapon.


27 posted on 05/28/2006 6:08:17 AM PDT by atomicweeder
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He was supposed to debate another scientist at a weather conference, but the organizer found him to be too obstreperous, and disinvited him.

Who? Bill Gray or other guy?

32 posted on 05/28/2006 6:11:40 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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Yeah, if we buy into global warming, I can tell you who's gonna get 'hoazed'.


39 posted on 05/28/2006 6:20:44 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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Fact is, this admission is a MAJOR departure from all of the previous PROPAGANDA that virtually Every Scientist on the Face of the Planet Agrees that Global Warming is a Major Issue...  Progress is obviously being made against the Enviro-FRAUD!

It's time Americans understood that the REAL agenda behind the Enviro "Greens" is to attack, and to control American business and Industry.  To completely DESTROY the American Economy...

· US Senate Radicals attempt to continue Global Warming PROPAGANDA (Global Warming is a Scientific FRAUD, Fed Data Quality Act attacked)
· Nobody Told the Birds About Global Warming
· Arctic Sea Ice Not Melting (How fraud is routinely used in green)
· Environmentalism's Dangerous Campaign for "Safety" (Always citing "POTENTIAL" problems to destroy and control business)
· Putin adviser says Kyoto 'smoke screen' (Treaty will create Soviet-style 'monster' threatening freedom)
· Michael Crichton Takes on Global Warming in Latest Work (Author Says Environmentalists Are 'Fomenting False Fears')
· The Kyoto Protocol is Dead
· A Haunting We Will Go (The Silliness of Regulating Greenhouse Gases)
· GLOBAL WARMING FRAUD (Designed To Undermine US Economy)
· Conservative GOP Senator Again Blasts Enviromentalist Fearmongers (Exposes the Corruption and FRAUD of Green)
· The Rainforest Action Network's real target is the Third World's poor (Destroying the Poor to Advance a Political Agenda)
· Mercury in Fish Overblown (Eco Propaganda about Mercury levels in Fish)
· Nation Descends into Mercury Madness (More Eco Propaganda about Mercury's harmful effects)
· Earth Day - Eco-Communist Propaganda (Greens and their subversion of America)
· Global Warming faces State of Fear (Debate over Global Warming propaganda has Eco-Communists FURIOUS)
· Climatologists Are Split on Global Warming (About 50 - 50) (Eco-Communist PROPAGANDA claims 100% agreement)
· The Global Warming Hoax (The Anti-Capitalist CON of Global Warming)
· Terminating the Economy - How Greens try to Destroy Capitalism
· Whacko Environmentalism and the Link to Columbia Shuttle Disaster
· The Theology of Global Warming (How the Global Warming Con is designed to attack capitalism)
· Who is afraid of scientific methods? (Why Eco-Communists do not want to apply science to "Global Warming")
· Katrina Kicks Up Storm of Global Warming Debate (Global Warming being shown as a UNITED NATIONS FRAUD)
· Goodbye to Anthropogenic Global Warming (PROOF that Global Warming is an Anti-Capitalist Con...)
· HILARIOUS Environmental Humor (Actual Correspondence about a Michigan Resident's Dam Building Project in the Creek)
· INHOFE DELIVERS FIRST OF FOUR SPEECHES ON CLIMATE CHANGE (1 of 4 Speeches showing the FRAUD of Global Warming "Science")
· INHOFE DELIVERS SECOND OF FOUR SPEECHES ON CLIMATE CHANGE (2 of 4 on dismantling the four pillars of climate change alarmism)
· INHOFE DELIVERS THIRD OF FOUR SPEECHES ON CLIMATE CHANGE (3 of 4 speeches on dismantling the four pillars of climate change alarmism)
· INHOFE DELIVERS FINAL “FOUR PILLARS” SPEECH (4 of 4 speech on dismantling Climate Change Alarmism)

 

42 posted on 05/28/2006 6:28:44 AM PDT by woodb01 (ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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Great article.

I think most of us see global warming as FUD by those seeking greater control of our lives and resources -- i.e. wealth, prestige and power for themselves without doing any real work, sorta like the scientists in Atlas Shrugged.

Now, I've said this before but we should go along with them just a bit, advocating plans that inarguably cut CO2 but affect causes they generally considered untouchable..

This actually seems to be working with nukes.

Another one would be breaking the bottlenecks at the West Coast ports, which would also break the extreme left unions that control them, and of course cutt CO2 and SAVE OUR CHILDREN lol.

Another would be exempting home offices of telecomunters from OSHA regs and indemnifying businesses from lawsuits caused by accidents at the homes of employees telecommuting. Granted the Dem trial lawyers won't like it but we must encourage telecommuting to cut CO2 emissions and SAVE OUR CHILDREN!!!

You get the point.

And you know what? A sincere believer in global warming will support these things without compromise. If the left refuses, I guess global warming isn't such a big deal LOL.

43 posted on 05/28/2006 6:31:06 AM PDT by Tribune7
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Global warming is not a hoax. It is yet another avenue being pursued to destroy western civilization.

A hoax is usually a playful attempt to gain advantage; the global warming movers are vindictive of free peoples and demonstrate malice aforethought with every new resolution or law they jam through deliberative bodies.

They have neutered ability to expand energy production and now only wait as increasing populations and demand bring the western democratic nations to chaos and tyranny.

46 posted on 05/28/2006 6:33:52 AM PDT by mmercier (bungee jumping into the abyss)
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