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1 posted on 09/02/2006 11:15:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Yet a new study published in the December issue of Geology provides strong indications that the extinction cause did not come from the heavens but from Earth itself.

Are they sure it wasn`t George Bushs energy policies like Al Gore says?

2 posted on 09/02/2006 11:16:44 AM PDT by Screamname (A second plane has just hit the second tower, this is a coincidence. - Katie Couric, Sept 11th 2001)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I thought the Siberian Traps had been tied in to the Permian extinction, but perhaps my recollection is faulty.


3 posted on 09/02/2006 11:17:30 AM PDT by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: SunkenCiv
Also:

New evidence supports terrestrial cause of end-Permian mass extinction

*****************AN ABSTRACT**********************************

When Earth turned bad  December 2, 2004

New evidence supports terrestrial cause of end-Permian mass extinction

Dwain Eldred writes: Two hundred and fifty million years ago, ninety percent of marine species disappeared and life on land suffered greatly during the world's largest mass extinction. The cause of this great dying has baffled scientists for decades, and recent speculations invoke asteroid impacts as a kill mechanism. Yet a new study published in the December issue of Geology provides strong indications that the extinction cause did not come from the heavens but from Earth itself. 

An international team of scientists led by Christian Koeberl from the University of Vienna studied rock samples taken from deep in the Carnic Alps of southern Austria and the western Dolomites in northeast Italy. Their findings promise to fuel what is already one of the hottest debates in Earth science. 

"Our geochemical analyses of these two famous end-Permian sections in Austria and Italy reveal no tangible evidence of extraterrestrial impact," said Koeberl. "This suggests the mass extinction must have been home-grown." 

Asteroids and comets are chemically different from the Earth and when these objects arrive they leave a tell-tale chemical fingerprint in the rocks – for example, the famous iridium-rich layer at the K/T boundary that suggests strongly that extraterrestrial impact or impacts were involved in the late Cretaceous extinction.

With the help of colleagues from the USA and UK, Koeberl confirmed the presence of the element iridium in the samples. Iridium is abundant in asteroids, comets, and other extraterrestrial material. However, the amounts found were very small compared to those associated with the asteroid impact that many scientists believe killed off the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. At the same time, the team found no traces of the extraterrestrial isotopes helium-3 and osmium-187, commonly associated with impact events. 

What the team did find, however, was evidence of purely terrestrial processes at work. According to Koeberl, "The slight concentrations of iridium may have been deposited by sluggish oceans when atmospheric carbon dioxide levels were high and seawater oxygen levels were low. The source of the carbon dioxide was probably volcanic activity." 

Large areas of Earth's crust can be split by volcanic activity to create space in which oceans form. When it comes to cracking continents, however, in the words of the song breaking up is very hard to do. At the close of the Permian, one such failed attempt at ocean forming led to massive volcanic activity in the heart of present day Siberia. Emissions flooded the atmosphere leading to changes in climate and patterns of oceanic circulation. 

"Our findings support the view that evidence for an extraterrestrial impact event during this time period is weak and inconsistent" said Koeberl. "At the same time, they suggest that widespread volcanic activity may have been the 'smoking gun,' quite literally, that wiped out much of life on Earth."


4 posted on 09/02/2006 11:19:02 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So much for those ant-scientists who always say that theories of the origins of life (and TToE) are somehow monolithic.

I keep telling them that there are many debates within the community, but if you don't accept THEIR individual interpretation of a literal Bible, you are an atheistic heathen.


5 posted on 09/02/2006 11:19:46 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: Fred Nerks

A climate changing event!


8 posted on 09/02/2006 11:32:07 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"...rock samples taken from deep in the Carnic Alps of southern Austria and the western Dolomites in northeast Italy..."


9 posted on 09/02/2006 11:37:54 AM PDT by AirForceBrat23
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To: PatrickHenry

Ping


10 posted on 09/02/2006 11:38:01 AM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gen: 7:11

In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

12 posted on 09/02/2006 11:48:05 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; neverdem


13 posted on 09/02/2006 11:55:48 AM PDT by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; 75thOVI; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; CGVet58; chilepepper; ...
Thanks, Ernest, for the update to this 2004 topic, and for the ping.

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16 posted on 09/02/2006 12:06:47 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, August 10, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Bookmard.


20 posted on 09/02/2006 1:10:36 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
widespread volcanic activity may have been the 'smoking gun,'

The Siberia event was big. Not only were many species extinguished, but entire families. Is this post off topic?

37 posted on 09/02/2006 4:38:17 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Chicken Little, the sky is falling, again and again and again.


65 posted on 09/04/2006 5:22:24 PM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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