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To: Ancesthntr

You did not answer my questions of why has God not spoken to His people in over 2000 years?


122 posted on 09/29/2006 1:49:07 AM PDT by John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?
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To: John 6.66=Mark of the Beast?

"You did not answer my questions of why has God not spoken to His people in over 2000 years?"

Your question (which relates back to your post #119) has a 2-part answer. The first part relates to your allegation that G-d doesn't speak to Jews today (and hasn't for quite some time). What you seem to be speaking of is prophecy - i.e., why are there no more prophets?

Here is why there is no prophecy in Judaism today:

"Prophecy is a difficult state to obtain because, in addition to the demands it makes on the individual, it also requires a very high state of holiness in the general environment. When the Jewish people lived in the land of Israel and the Aron HaKodesh (Holy Ark) was kept in the Beis HaMikdash (The Holy Temple), this state of holiness existed in the land of Israel. Since the time of the destruction of the first Beis HaMikdash (over 2400 years ago), prophecy and other forms of Divine Inspiration have become progressively more difficult to obtain. Today, for all purposes, true prophecy does not exist. It will return to the Jewish people in the time of Moshiach."

That quote is from a site authored by Rabbi Lazer Brody - I cannot rightfully claim credit for the words or the thoughts.

The 2nd part of my answer has to do with the language and, more importantly, the tone of your comments, specifically:

"OK where is your God today?"

"Why has He not spoken to you?"

"Is your God dead?"

"Does He have no ears no eyes no mouth to speak with?"

"Where are the prophets of today speaking out for God like Isaiah, Jeremiah, speaking of the condition of Israel crying out for repentance?"

"Seems like your God has not spoken for over 2000 years."

OK, so you seem to have a lot of contempt for the religion that the G-d of the Jews (in Whom your Jesus devoutly believed, if the Gospels are to be taken at their words) gave to His chosen people. That's your problem (and not with me, with Someone Else).

But, to answer your ill-mannered questions, which essentially boil down to "since you Jews have suffered so much, how can you claim that your G-d, your 'Protector,' exists?" I say: OK, fair question...with a very simple answer: Look at the world - you might have seen and heard something about a people that comprises all of 1/5 of 1% of all of humanity, a miniscule piece of despised humanity that has been disbursed to the 4 winds twice - not once, mind you, but TWICE, a people persecuted, enslaved and butchered because of their faith for over 2,000 years by the Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Mohammedans, Spanish and various Europeans, including 200 years of bloody Crusades that murdered Jews on the way to butcher Moslems in order to win Jerusalem for the "Prince of Peace," the Inquisition and its horrible tortures, the massacres of Bogdan Chmelnicki, the blood libels, the expulsions, the state-sponsored theft of wealth, the fearsome pressure to convert (often at sword-point) to other religions and, of course, the Shoah/Holocaust. You see these people, who by every law of history should have ceased to exist after the destruction of the First Temple 2,700 years ago, let alone the bloody massacres at the destruction of the 2nd and the Bar Kochba rebellion only 2 generations later, who have not only survived, but thrived. These "forsaken" people have won approximately 22% of all Nobel Prizes ever awarded. The same language which co-existed with Egyptian hieroglyphics and Babylonian cuneiform is now printed in Jerusalem and Tel Aviv newspapers every day. The "weak" Jews, "abandoned" by G-d, emerged from the ashes in Europe to win and maintain the independence of a nation over the violent opposition of the entire Arab world and many other hostile nations allied with the Arabs (e.g. the Soviet Union), and today are reported to have several hundred thermonuclear bombs and warheads.

G-d promised us that He'd protect us, that even if we as a people strayed from Him he'd save a remnant, and that Israel would rise again as a prelude to the coming of the Moshiach. To date, all of this prophecy is true. The fact that no one over the last 2,400 or so years could legitimately say that G-d spoke to them is of little import - G-d's actions give credence to the words in His Bible, which He gave to Moses at Mt. Sinai.


123 posted on 10/03/2006 11:13:27 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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