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To: FLOutdoorsman
We've visited the area often; a beautiful place "today" and where Andy Griffith got his start.

I've always had a bit of a pet peeve with "The Lost Colony" though. Most of us were taught that it was the first European colony in the New World, but it was established in 1587. The French had established a fort and colony on the St. Johns River in 1564 followed by the Spanish establishing St. Augustine in 1565. By the time the first "English" settlers were mysteriously disappearing, St. Augustine was a thriving town; 42 years before Jamestown and 55 years before the pilgrims landed.

3 posted on 10/25/2006 9:22:56 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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I never heard "first European Colony" and I lived in southeast Virginia and went to school and history classes there. I always heard that it was the first English permanent settlement. The same history books had Spaniards in Georgia already.


6 posted on 10/25/2006 9:26:02 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: CWOJackson
Most of us were taught that it was the first European colony in the New World, but it was established in 1587.

No, most of us were taught that it was the first English colony in the New World and that is correct along with Virginia Dare being the first English baby born in North America.

8 posted on 10/25/2006 9:29:05 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: CWOJackson
There were other places that were established over time that fly under the historical radar. Roanoke was meant to be a colony, Jamestown followed as did Plymouth. Whale oil was was in demand and whalers spotted outposts along the NE coasts for fresh water and meat. These took years to take hold but succeeded while other (ill) planned colonies struggled.

Cui Bono? Profit, Chief.
23 posted on 10/25/2006 9:52:41 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: CWOJackson

The lesson was that the Roanoke Island colony was the first English attempt.

My favorite book growing up was "the Flamingo Feather" by Kirk Munroe describing the interaction of the French, Sapnish and indian struggle over the terrority.

I'll jump in here to comment on the people.

Recently there has been a major effort by the folks known as Mullengons who live in East Tennessee and southwest virginia to explore in detail their heritage. There is near certainty that they spring from these very early abandoned colonies.

The mix of European and Indian plus other genes resulted in a population that was ostracized by both Indian and Europeans who came later. The Mullengons who can be readily identified by a knot on their head, were pushed westward to the mountains and ridgetops of East Tennessee and Southwest Va.


47 posted on 10/26/2006 5:12:53 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. We will screw you inshallah)
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To: CWOJackson

"Most of us were taught that it was the first European colony in the New World,"

You must have gone to some Yankee school. We were taught that it was the first English colony.


52 posted on 10/27/2006 10:47:10 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Crom!)
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