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How a vile sermon has done Australia a big favour [More on "They're asking for rape"]
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | October 29, 2006 | Unsigned

Posted on 10/28/2006 4:59:29 PM PDT by aculeus

When you think about it, Sheik Hilaly has done us a favour. For one thing, his recently translated sermon, declaring women as Satan's agents who incite rape with immodest dress, has at last provoked Australia's moderate Muslims to find a strong voice, as they lined up last week to condemn the mufti.

"His comments imply we've got no sense of right and wrong," said Mustapha Kara-Ali, the youth representative on the Prime Minister's Muslim community reference group.

As well, by revealing so unequivocally his primitive views of women, Hilaly destroyed the claims by cultural relativists that Sydney's series of gang rapes by Muslim men had nothing to do with culture or religion.

"If you take uncovered meat and put it on the street ... without a cover and the cats eat it, is it the fault of the cat or the uncovered meat?" he said in the sermon to 500 people last month at Lakemba mosque. "The uncovered meat is the problem. If the meat was covered, the cats wouldn't roam around it. If the meat is inside the fridge, they won't get it ... if the woman is in her boudoir, in her house and if she's wearing the veil and if she shows modesty, disasters don't happen."

Then in a clear reference to the gang rape trial of Bilal Skaf, he said: "A woman possesses the weapon of seduction. It is she who takes off her clothes, shortens them, flirts, puts on make-up and powder and takes to the streets, God protect us ... then it's a look, then a smile, then a conversation ... then a date, then a meeting, then a crime, then Long Bay jail. Then you get a judge, who has no mercy, and he gives you 65 years."

The only incitement committed by 18-year-old Ms C, who was raped 25 times by up to 14 men including Skaf in 2000, was being Australian. Sitting on a train, dressed for a job interview in her best suit, and reading The Great Gatsby, she was a slut, an "Aussie pig" as they called her later, while boasting: "I'm going to f--- you Leb style."

"I looked in his eyes. I had never seen such indifference," she said.

Hilaly was simply echoing what the father of four Pakistani-born gang-rapists from Ashfield once said of the young victims: "What do they expect to happen to them? Girls from Pakistan don't go out at night."

Hilaly's younger, Australian-born counterparts have been saying the same thing for years.

"A victim of rape every minute somewhere in the world," Sheik Feiz Mohammad told 1000 people at Bankstown Town Hall last year. "Why? No one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world ... strapless, backless, sleeveless, nothing but satanic skirts, slit skirts, translucent blouses."

Egyptian-born Hilaly may have been escalating his rhetoric to shore up support as extremist groups such as the Islamic Youth Movement encroach on his territory.

It is worth remembering that terrorism experts have regarded Hilaly as a moderating influence, and Singapore-based Rohan Gunaratna described him as "a mild man, compared to others".

Reports yesterday that Hilaly's planned deportation in 1986 was stopped by none other than the former member for Bankstown, Paul Keating, and that a public servant lost his job for trying to stand up to the political interference, are certainly frustrating.

But Hilaly, who claimed in a 2004 sermon in Lebanon, "I have four wives and plenty of children", is an Australian citizen now. Deportation is not an option.

Moreover, in the rush to banish the mufti, people should realise that whoever replaces him might be worse, as a new generation of radical firebrands emerges who have long fought Hilaly for control of the influential mosque.

Sometimes pragmatism favours the devil you know.


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: australia; islam; muddydicks; muslims; penis; religionofpieces; religionofrape; rop; sexcrimes; sheikhilaly
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Well good to see the Mods on top of things!

As to the story.... If all women not donning a burkahs are sex objects waiting to be had then he's saying the muzzie men have no self-control or concept of right or wrong. We already knew that.

They are called Koranimals for a reason.


41 posted on 10/28/2006 5:24:33 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: VictoryGal

"But Hilaly, who claimed in a 2004 sermon in Lebanon, "I have four wives and plenty of children"

Don't all of these fat, worthless Imams have four wives. They sit on their fat asses while they urge naive young kids to kill themselves for nothing.


42 posted on 10/28/2006 5:25:42 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: aculeus; mastercylinder; Admin Moderator; All
Good Grief! What's with all the Trolls on this thread?

Run Troll Run!
Click the Pic

43 posted on 10/28/2006 5:26:09 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: mastercylinder

Interesting website. Looks like a bunch of 4 yr olds.


44 posted on 10/28/2006 5:30:17 PM PDT by freedom4ever
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To: Fiddlstix

Internet kiddies playing tough. Thing is, we know where they live. Heh heh...


45 posted on 10/28/2006 5:31:10 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Fiddlstix

It's going to be a long night for the moderators. What they did on the Bush photo thread was totally vile.



Bacon bits make good confetti.


46 posted on 10/28/2006 5:33:04 PM PDT by Excellence (Vote Dhimmocrat; Submit for Peace!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

"Deport the lot of them to a south Pacific island."

no way. keep them on their dusty desert. back to arabia.



47 posted on 10/28/2006 5:33:34 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Billthedrill
Thing is, we know where they live

">> Anonymous 06/10/28(Sat)20:36 No.29365 Yes, I'd have to say MISSION FAILED" Somebody is very, very disappointed. Watch how their posts slow down.

48 posted on 10/28/2006 5:37:34 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

I'm in. This is gonna be fun.


49 posted on 10/28/2006 5:38:33 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Excellence; Billthedrill; mastercylinder
Thanks for the info J
50 posted on 10/28/2006 5:38:39 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Fiddlstix

np have fun


51 posted on 10/28/2006 5:42:20 PM PDT by mastercylinder (Evolution: Taking care of those too stupid to take care of themselves.)
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To: aculeus
Counter speech:

"Women who wear the veil incite lust and violence. Only beautful, h^&%$ women would hide from men under such robes. Their eyes beg for men and s3x. Such eyes ask for, yeah, demand, rape."

Brought to you by the People for Irony and Grotesqueness (PIG).

52 posted on 10/28/2006 5:49:06 PM PDT by madison10 (Live your life in such a way that the preacher won't have to lie at your funeral.)
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To: aculeus
Sheik Hilaly reminds me of Pvt. Maggott from the movie "Dirty Dozen", a religious pshycopath and a spiritually weak man. He and his follower's piety is so fragile it can be shattered by the sight of a woman and contend her exposure to them is personal and should be countered by rape. This is a reflection to the one they venerate. Mohamed must have been fearful of women and was quick to blame his weakness on someone else. Couldn't he pray to Allah for strength? I don't think he wanted to, as he used his immature conception of women as a tool to use against them.

If Jesus were around today he would address them as he did the Pharisees of his time.

53 posted on 10/28/2006 5:50:40 PM PDT by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

I missed something !!! What Are Ya'll Eatin',????
hehehehehe...;0)


54 posted on 10/28/2006 5:52:26 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: VictoryGal

Revoke his citizenship and send him packing.


55 posted on 10/28/2006 5:58:59 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: aculeus
"What do they expect to happen to them? Girls from Pakistan don't go out at night."

Why are these people not simply killed? Where is the family of this raped woman? These Muslims are animals. They do not deserve trials. They should simply be released to the families to skin alive.

56 posted on 10/28/2006 6:05:43 PM PDT by montag813
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To: aculeus
For one thing, his recently translated sermon, declaring women as Satan's agents who incite rape with immodest dress, has at last provoked Australia's moderate Muslims to find a strong voice, as they lined up last week to condemn the mufti.

I wouldn't believe them, or count on them for any real support.

57 posted on 10/28/2006 6:07:44 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: 1COUNTER-MORTER-68

Troll. It isn't just for breakfast anymore.


58 posted on 10/28/2006 6:08:42 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: mastercylinder

TANKS for the link,,,Interesting...;0)


59 posted on 10/28/2006 6:10:36 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

HAHAHAHA,,,,Goes Fast Too,,I See...;0)


60 posted on 10/28/2006 6:12:05 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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