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1 posted on 11/10/2006 4:23:48 PM PST by jamesrichards
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i.e. Hello open borders.

Thanks for voting Democrat. :)


2 posted on 11/10/2006 4:25:22 PM PST by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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RINO's need to be fired. Chuck pack your bags
3 posted on 11/10/2006 4:25:24 PM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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Sad.


4 posted on 11/10/2006 4:25:51 PM PST by mysterio
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Viva Bush!


5 posted on 11/10/2006 4:25:59 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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"He said then that it would cost them in the midterm elections."

Right. That must have been what did it.


7 posted on 11/10/2006 4:27:55 PM PST by Riverine
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Bush cost the GOP the election because he took away the issue of immigration by being for open borders.


8 posted on 11/10/2006 4:28:00 PM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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Thanks Michael Savage. Thanks Pat Buchanan. I hope you had fun savaging the Republicans in the run-up to the election. It is now time to pay the piper.

Who are the stooges of the globalists now?

9 posted on 11/10/2006 4:29:20 PM PST by trek
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Hagel will suffer for his collaboration. As one columnist put it, Republicans didn't lose this time around because they were conservative, but because they WEREN'T. And Hagel is no conservative. He is at the top of the "Must Be Purged" list.


10 posted on 11/10/2006 4:29:26 PM PST by IronJack
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Well, guess my husband and I better start learning Spanish. Heard it is easier then English.


12 posted on 11/10/2006 4:30:04 PM PST by Strutt9
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A strategy needs to be formed to stop this madness.

Gop conservative caucus the group pence is leading with tancredo needs to play hardball with Bush.

Bush will need the conservative caucus to block some of pelosi's agenda.


Anyone have suggestions how this can be stopped.
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Bush needs to be told if you want us to veto your priorities then no comprehensive immigration reform.


There is no way the senate will filibuster with the rinos terrified for their jobs.

The dems united and blocked bush the difference will be the gop will cave.

So without a filibuster in the senate you will need bush to veto.

I don't see how this can be blocked without hardball from the conservatives in the house.

What I don't know are there even 145 members that would veto it if bush did.

Since I don't see bush vetoing the bill the only other option would be a strong conservative like jeff sessions using procedural delays anything to kill the bill.


14 posted on 11/10/2006 4:30:59 PM PST by jamesrichards
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Are there enough conservatives left to filibuster this?


15 posted on 11/10/2006 4:31:38 PM PST by kuma (Mark Sanford '08 http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html)
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He said then that it would cost them in the midterm elections

What cost us dearly in the mid-term is people like Chuck Hagel and President Bush, selling conservatives down the drain with their amnesty for illegal alien law breakers program.

Perhaps Hagel should look at the turn out for these mid-term elections again:

In 2004 the vote went approx 50%-50% and 120 million votes were cast.

In 2006 the vote went 31 million Democrats to 25 million Republicans of the 56 million votes cast.
Conservatives stayed at home.
Hagel should try and get a clue. Appeasing law breakers is like feeding a crocodile in the hope that he eats you last. He should just go ask the French, and how the alien invaders and Islamic "youth" have kept trashing the country, despite France kowtowing to Islamic terrorists since the WOT begun.
17 posted on 11/10/2006 4:32:15 PM PST by ShawTaylor
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Hagel and the rest of the anti-sovereignty scum will cost Republicans the 08 election too. Republicans can't win acting like Democrats.


21 posted on 11/10/2006 4:35:01 PM PST by SUSSA
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ok - time to start - buenos dios, que pasa, onis, doce, tres


24 posted on 11/10/2006 4:38:32 PM PST by SF Republican
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He said then that it would cost them in the midterm elections.

He was right. The only thing a small but vocal nucleus cared about was kicking Hispanics out of the country. I think that alienated a lot of people (not only Hispanics, btw) and made the GOP look like a bitter bunch of nativists with no constructive answer to anything. All of the other issues got lost in an obsession with Hispanic - oh, sorry - "illegal" immigration.

People who really wanted to deal with the illegals problem would have put pressure on their city and state governments to stop giving out welfare freebies to everybody, permit police and other authorities to check IDs and submit reports to immigration authorities, etc. Almost all the laws that are a problem in terms of dealing with illegal immigration are local laws, passed by Dems who want to keep their welfare population thriving and voting Dem.

Making it a federal issue made it impossible to solve, made the GOP look bad, and distracted voters from the real issues.

30 posted on 11/10/2006 4:48:51 PM PST by livius
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Hagel expects an OK on immigration bill

When does this sh*t for brains come up for reelection?

34 posted on 11/10/2006 4:58:14 PM PST by appleharvey
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Major work-site crackdowns have run into trouble in the past. A spring 1998 sweep that targeted the Vidalia onion harvest in Georgia, and Operation Vanguard, a 1999 clampdown on meatpacking plants in Nebraska, Iowa and South Dakota, provide case studies of how the government fared when confronted by a coalition that included low-wage immigrant workers and the industries that hire them, analysts said.

For Operation Vanguard, the INS used a more sophisticated tactic. It subpoenaed personnel records from Midwestern meatpacking plants and checked them against INS and Social Security databases of authorized workers, then interviewed suspect employees. Of 24,148 employees checked, 4,495, or 19 percent, had dubious documents at about 40 plants in Nebraska, western Iowa and South Dakota. Of those workers, 70 percent disappeared rather than be interviewed. Of 1,042 questioned, 34 were arrested and deported.

Nebraska's members of Congress at first called for tougher enforcement, recalled Mark Reed, then INS director of operations. But when the result shut down some plants, "all hell broke loose," he said.

Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns (R), who was governor at the time, appointed a task force to oppose the operation. Former governor Ben Nelson (D), now a U.S. senator, was hired as a lobbyist by meatpackers and ranchers. Sen. Chuck Hagel (Rino) pressured the Justice Department to stop.

...Operation Vanguard -- which was designed to expand to four states in four months and nationwide the next year, eventually including the lodging, food and construction industries -- was killed.

Source

40 posted on 11/10/2006 6:10:31 PM PST by F-117A
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I don't believe the Democrats would hand Bush/Republicans a victory on an immigration bill. Somehow, the Democrats will make the bill so unpalatable, even Bush won't sign it - then they'll use it as a campaign issue in 2008, hoping to have a Democratic President sing the bill.
46 posted on 11/10/2006 6:20:55 PM PST by 11th_VA
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....comprehensive immigration overhaul bill

Always remember that when you see the word "comprehensive", it means the bill is loaded with all kinds of unpalatable provisions that would never pass individually on their own.

This crap needs to be killed dead.

47 posted on 11/10/2006 6:23:23 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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UpChuck Hagel supports amnesty, i.e. SB2611, sent to the House at the beginning of the past Summer.

The House passed HR4437, what we really need, but that died when they received S2611 and were faced with a compromise between the two.

The House, instead of getting down to business and insisting on the most stringent provisions, equivocated and set about holding "hearings" around the country.

This weakness didn't exactly inspire GOP voters.

Thank you, Denny Hastert.


51 posted on 11/10/2006 6:35:48 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless America, Land that I LOVE...)
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