The senate voted 62-36 for that bloated horrific immigration bill that specter created.
There were only 36 votes for stopping it I think 32 were republicans.
You would need 40 votes for a filibuster.
And you know the dems will push this.
I disagree with the people saying the dems won't push this to protect their candidates.
The dems will push this because they see this as taking an issue away from the conservatives.
The dems know by passing this it will demoralize the gop base for 08.
60 percent at least of the public doesn't want amnesty. The voters weren't voting about amnesty during the election but they can't stand it. Even dem blue collar voters don't like it but the dem politicians do.
Why the gop didn't run on this more is beyond me. They kept talking about taxes not stopping pelosi from her amnesty agenda.
What is really troubling is I don't see a way to stop this now.
Conservatives in the senate need to not leave the floor a true filibuster and not let the bill proceed.
Tancredo was bashing the party without thinking that it might bring it down and leave us in a impossible position.
I hope pence and tancredo are thinking up a way to block this.
Pence is supposed to be running for a leadership position. It will give him some power over the Repubs at least. Hopefully that will be a good enough soap box to get up and preach on.
Though the MSM will do everything in their power to ignore him, he needs to work around it and get this message out to the people so both Dems and Repubs will fear for their paycheck.
see post #41 from the link at #35
you need 41. I don't know if we can hold on this in the senate.
the best bet - is a coalition in the house between the Rs and enough of the blue dogs, to stop it.
otherwise, it passes. Bush could care less about the base now.
Yes, you got your numbers right.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1640454/posts
Yet, we just lost 3 Republican Senators who voted NO on S2611: Allen, Burns and Talent.
Did the voters who care about immigration enforcement and border security make a point of campaigning and voting for these Senators? What happened?
Did the national GOP deliberately withhold support from these candidates because of their immigration stance? What happened?
Did the candidates themselves play it down in the campaign?
It has nothing to do with the Senate now; it's in the House.