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Cheney may go, opening field for 2008
The Australian ^ | November 13 2006 | David Nason

Posted on 11/12/2006 9:48:47 PM PST by jmc1969

WHEN US Vice-President Dick Cheney fired a shotgun into the face of his buddy Harry Whittington on a hunting trip earlier this year, The New York Post carried a banner headline that read: "Cheney's got a gun". The headline explained how the quail shoot had gone wrong, and captured the sense of foreboding Cheney has always brought to US politics.

Even the revelatory tone seemed to speak to the excessive secrecy that is a Cheney hallmark - and which was evident in the attempted cover-up of Whittington's near-death experience.

The shooting was back in February, when Cheney's immense influence over the White House was at its peak.

It was a time when the Iraq policy he had conceived with defence secretary and lifelong pal Donald Rumsfeld - the policy that has come to define the careers of both men - was holding up well enough for the Bush administration to be contemplating troop reductions.

If Cheney quits, Bush could appoint in his place one of the contenders for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.

Previously, Mitt Romney and George Pataki, the retiring governors of Massachusetts and New York respectively, have been mentioned as possible replacements in the event of a Cheney resignation. So has George Allen, the ambitious but now defeated senator from Virginia, and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

But what if Bush were to ask one of the Republican frontrunners, either John McCain or Rudy Giuliani, to take the job? Would they accept on the basis that the vice-presidency is the best place from which to launch a presidential run, or would they decline for fear of being tainted by the Bush legacy?

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To: jmc1969
From Section 2, Amendment 25 to the US Constitution:

"Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress."

21 posted on 11/12/2006 10:06:39 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: dayglored; jmc1969; wai-ming
Heh, beat me by 20 seconds, and you got the full text too! ;-)

No point about arguing about the content of the 25th amendment when it is so easy just to post and read it in a thread.

22 posted on 11/12/2006 10:08:44 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

There was never any hearings for Ford that I can remember.

Maybe, the Senate and House did vote for him, but I remember that time quite well and there was no hearings that I recall.


23 posted on 11/12/2006 10:09:02 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969
his replacement does not have to be ok'ed by Congress.

Are you sure about that?

I checked information of Gerald Ford, the last VP appointed by a President mid-term, and he had to be confirmed. Here's the relevant information:

"Following Spiro Agnew's resignation, Nixon nominated Gerald R. Ford as his new vice president. Confronting the scenario that he had described in his earlier testimony, Nixon could not choose the candidate he preferred, John Connally. Because the Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress opposed Connally, the president was forced to settle for someone more likely to win confirmation. For the Democrats, there was also some irony involved. Less than a year later, when Nixon himself resigned, it was the former Republican leader of the House who succeeded him. Had the Twenty-fifth amendment not been adopted, the resignations—or impeachments—of Nixon and Agnew would have handed the presidency to the Speaker of the House, a Democrat."

Source: http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/VP_Gerald_Ford.htm

24 posted on 11/12/2006 10:09:20 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: DuncanWaring

That is correct.


25 posted on 11/12/2006 10:12:19 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: jmc1969

I don't recall hearings for Ford, but I certainly recall hearings for Rockefeller.


26 posted on 11/12/2006 10:13:03 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: wai-ming

Do you remember Alito like hearings for Ford for VP? They may have voted on him, but I don't recall hearings.


27 posted on 11/12/2006 10:13:05 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

28 posted on 11/12/2006 10:15:01 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: Darkwolf377
If Condi wasn't a black female there wouldn't be a single person on here who would be pimping her for President. She has done okay in her current job and is a very smart woman but she isn't close to presidential material and isn't close to electable.
29 posted on 11/12/2006 10:15:08 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: wai-ming

Actually, the last VP appointed by a President mid-term was Nelson Rockefeller, after Richard Nixon resigned.


30 posted on 11/12/2006 10:15:37 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

After Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned during Richard Nixon's presidency October 10, 1973, Nixon nominated Ford to take Agnew's position on October 12.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford


31 posted on 11/12/2006 10:19:02 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969
Do you remember Alito like hearings for Ford for VP?

I was much too young then to be paying attention to politics. (Smile. How old do I look?)

They may have voted on him, but I don't recall hearings.

Why would (today's) Dems call for a simple vote when they could drag out the process indefinitely for their own political advantage?

32 posted on 11/12/2006 10:20:46 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: DuncanWaring

If the Democrats go forward with the impeachment nonsense I think Bush should call their bluff. Have Cheney resign and nominate George Allan to replace him. He would have to get through the Senate, but I think he would... He cant be touched by an impeachment probe (he hasn't been part of the Administration), and he would END the proceedings before they began, because Hilary's entire strategy depends on running against an open seat.


33 posted on 11/12/2006 10:20:54 PM PST by The Hollywood Conservative (I can't even make a tagline because I'm a GIANT IDIOT!!!)
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To: ArtyFO

I dont think there will be any close votes. The Rinos (gang of 13) will now do whats in their nature and prostrate and appease to the left to stay safe in their small nut like minds.


34 posted on 11/12/2006 10:21:13 PM PST by samadams2000 (Somebody important make....THE CALL!)
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To: DuncanWaring
Actually, the last VP appointed by a President mid-term was Nelson Rockefeller, after Richard Nixon resigned.

Thanks. I stand corrected.

35 posted on 11/12/2006 10:21:57 PM PST by wai-ming
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To: SmoothTalker; Darkwolf377
If Condi wasn't a black female there wouldn't be a single person on here who would be pimping her for President. She has done okay in her current job and is a very smart woman but she isn't close to presidential material and isn't close to electable.

And she's never held any elected office. The only political novices that start out at the presidency are victorious generals.

36 posted on 11/12/2006 10:22:01 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Karl Rove isn't magnificent.)
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To: SmoothTalker
Well, in dealing with a hypothetical, I would hope W. would do something bold and utterly unexpected like making Rep. Melissa Hart the Vice-President. She recently lost re-election but she is a bright shining star who would make the feminazis boil over and self-combust.
37 posted on 11/12/2006 10:23:27 PM PST by Maeve
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
he's sane.

Exactly why the Dems want him out. Cheney is more qualified to be president than anyone I can think of.

38 posted on 11/12/2006 10:25:29 PM PST by oyez (Why is it that egalitarians act like royalty?)
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To: wai-ming

After Vice President Spiro Agnew resigned during Richard Nixon's presidency October 10, 1973, Nixon nominated Ford to take Agnew's position on October 12.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerald_Ford


39 posted on 11/12/2006 10:26:43 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969

Grandpa: ".....and they lived happily ever after, The End."

3 year old: "Thank you grandpa, would you please read another make believe story to me"?

Grandpa: "Of course little one".

Grandpa: Cheney may go, opening field for 2008

"WHEN US Vice-President Dick Cheney fired a shotgun into the face of his buddy......blah, blah, blah......or would they decline for fear of being tainted by the Bush legacy?"

3 year old: "Thank you grandpa. Please read the one about the 3 bears now, it's much more believable".


40 posted on 11/12/2006 10:26:44 PM PST by Gator113
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