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Geminid Meteors Seen Striking The Moon
New Scientist ^ | 1-5-2006 | Kelly Young

Posted on 01/05/2007 12:31:14 PM PST by blam

Geminid meteors seen striking the Moon

17:13 05 January 2007
NewScientist.com news service
Kelly Young

Two small NASA telescopes with their lenses trained on the Moon spied five, and possibly six, Geminid meteoroids striking the lunar surface early on the morning of 14 December. The observations will help NASA design safe shelters for its future Moon base.

On Earth, most meteors burn up as they crash through the atmosphere. The Moon's atmosphere is negligible, however, so the largest of the space rocks crash into its surface with the force of 8-tonne bombs.

"We hope to learn how often big rocks crash into the Moon since we're sending astronauts back," says Bill Cooke, of the Meteoroid Environment Office at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama, US.

A crewed lunar base would have to be well shielded, given that meteoroids could be travelling at about 35 kilometres per second (see Preventing the sky falling in on Moon bases).

The concern is not really for the softball-sized projectiles hitting the astronauts directly, Cooke says, but rather from the material scattered from the resulting crater. Because of the Moon's lower gravity and thin atmosphere, material could fly for hundreds of metres. Cooke likens the ejecta to shrapnel from a bomb.

Ideal conditions

To find the impacts, NASA's twin 36-centimetre-wide telescopes, located at the Automated Lunar and Meteor Observatory (ALaMO) at Marshall, look for flashes of light on the unlit part of the Moon.

(Excerpt) Read more at space.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; geminid; meteor; moon; strike
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1 posted on 01/05/2007 12:31:15 PM PST by blam
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To: blam
"We hope to learn how often big rocks crash into the Moon since we're sending astronauts back,"

Could the answer be 5 or 6 times on some days?

2 posted on 01/05/2007 12:33:12 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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To: blam

The kinetic energy can easily exceed the explosive potential of that amount of TNT. Do not scorn kinetic energy!


3 posted on 01/05/2007 12:34:05 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Question.

Can entropy be reversed?

4 posted on 01/05/2007 12:35:03 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: blam
The Moon's atmosphere is negligible.

Is "none" negligible?

5 posted on 01/05/2007 12:36:28 PM PST by ASA Vet (The WOT should have been over on 9/12/01.)
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To: blam

Build UNDERGROUND...............


6 posted on 01/05/2007 12:38:25 PM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Mike Darancette; cogitator
Several thousand times a year? But - What size of impacting rocks should they worry about?

How big an area is the primary impact - and how big is the secondary (splashback) rock impact area?

Compare the area of the moon with the area of the landing craft and shelter itself: Probability of impact - even with an enhanced affected zone - is very very small.
7 posted on 01/05/2007 12:38:28 PM PST by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but Hillary's ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Young Werther

Yes, it will be in the Big Crunch!.........


8 posted on 01/05/2007 12:39:17 PM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Red Badger
Deep underground.

No other way.

9 posted on 01/05/2007 12:40:43 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream, that sees beyond the years)
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To: blam

My job had a 'ringside seat' view of the Geminids.
Unfortunately, we also had cloud cover that night.


10 posted on 01/05/2007 12:41:54 PM PST by Darksheare (Hey, you're curious reader #[an error occurred while processing this directive] to reach the end.)
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To: Young Werther

Of course, it happens during a part of every engine cycle.


11 posted on 01/05/2007 12:42:14 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Red Badger
But when the last star blinks out and the dregs of energy diffuse..can entropy be reversed?

When in doubt ask Asimov!

12 posted on 01/05/2007 12:42:56 PM PST by Young Werther
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To: Young Werther

And the computer said,"Let there be light!"...And there was light..........Asimov.........


13 posted on 01/05/2007 12:44:32 PM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Darksheare

Saw the Geminids in the bleakest part of West Texas one year. Absolutely and simply indescribable, even for one whose vocabulary is as awe inspiring as mine. (joke, joke) I'm astounded that traveling to remote parts of the country to see such things isn't as popular and unremarkable as going to Disney World.


14 posted on 01/05/2007 12:47:03 PM PST by RayStacy
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To: Red Badger
I think it was Heinlein that had the loonies digging deep trenches, then putting in floor, walls, and ceiling, sealing it up, and pushing the overburden back over the completed tunnel.

A good job for a robot trencher! Too bad we're sending people back first. Putting the same money into teleoperated robots would get more work done, since the robot would not need air, or water, or sanitary facilities, or food, or much radiation shielding. They could operate two or three shifts and "sleep" during lunar night. If we could land a nuke plant there we could fuse the lunar soil into building panels with another remote factory (much harder to to than a digger I think). Then, when people show up, they use the panels to line the trenches and caulk them tight.

Ooh, ooh, I know! Build a Space Shovel!

You still need to know how deep to make the trenches, but there is a cutoff point where it does not matter- imagine being at ground zero when Tycho was made!

15 posted on 01/05/2007 12:50:11 PM PST by DBrow
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To: Young Werther; RightWhale
Entropy isn't what it used to be.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

16 posted on 01/05/2007 12:57:02 PM PST by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: RayStacy

I've had the rotten luck of being stuck in the southern portion of 'upstate NY'...
Meaning Southern NY to the 'rest of the country'.
Why is this rotten?
Because for the past 8 years there has been rain, fog, or some form of weather interfering with visibility every time there is a meteor shower.
I got lucky once and saw comet Hyakutake.


17 posted on 01/05/2007 12:57:24 PM PST by Darksheare (Hey, you're curious reader #[an error occurred while processing this directive] to reach the end.)
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To: ASA Vet
Is "none" negligible?

What's the minimum amount of "gas" that has to be present to be considered "atmosphere"?

There's evidence of earlier outgassing on the lunar surface.

Did any of the Apollo missions think to bring back samples of the atmosphere?

18 posted on 01/05/2007 1:03:33 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Darksheare

You probably already know this, but even if it weren't foggy, etc., you get poor visibility because of city lights. Go to the remote regions and it is something you will NEVER forget. I rank it right up there with seeing the Grand Canyon.


19 posted on 01/05/2007 1:07:32 PM PST by RayStacy
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To: RayStacy

I'm in the cow country area of southern NY, Orange County section.
Plenty of darker areas there.
But... the weather stinks.


20 posted on 01/05/2007 1:08:43 PM PST by Darksheare (Hey, you're curious reader #[an error occurred while processing this directive] to reach the end.)
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