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The Debate continues.

Also, remember that the Hobbit survived the near-by super-volcano Toba 75,000 years ago, when as few a 2,000 and only as many as 10,000 humans worldwide survived that event.

1 posted on 01/29/2007 4:13:18 PM PST by blam
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To: SunkenCiv; Coyoteman

GGG Ping.


2 posted on 01/29/2007 4:13:55 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Hobbits are even alive today. Look at Julia Louis-Dreyfus who played Elaine on Seinfeld. She`s 5'2' tall and wears a size 8 1/2 size shoe. Excuse me, but small stature + huge feet = Hobbit, thank you very much.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000506/bio


3 posted on 01/29/2007 4:18:33 PM PST by Screamname (Guinness world records reports that the record for youngest living person is constantly being broken)
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"Also, remember that the Hobbit survived the near-by super-volcano Toba 75,000 years ago"

I thought that was Mt. Doom?


6 posted on 01/29/2007 4:43:24 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (A Muslim soldier can never be loyal to a non-Muslim commander.)
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Australian Scientists Hope Cave Chamber Will Settle 'Hobbit' Debate
7 posted on 01/29/2007 5:16:32 PM PST by blam
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Anthropologist Confirms 'Hobbit' Indeed A Seperate (Human) Species

Well, that would explain James Carville...


8 posted on 01/29/2007 5:23:44 PM PST by COBOL2Java ("No stronger retrograde force exists in the world" - Winston Churchill on Islam)
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Well,... now we know Dennis Kucinich's origins.


9 posted on 01/29/2007 5:29:55 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: blam
Also, remember that the Hobbit survived the near-by super-volcano Toba...

Maybe near-by is a good place to be. The air might be clearer near-by, soon after the initial blast. Or maybe not. Just a thought.

12 posted on 01/29/2007 5:41:37 PM PST by decimon
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To: blam

What they really don't want to believe is that modern man might have also originated somewhere outside of africa. It steps directly into their PC crap.


13 posted on 01/29/2007 5:47:47 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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"People refused to believe that someone with that small of a brain could make the tools. How could it be a sophisticated new species?"


Because intellect has a spiritual component as well as a physical one.


20 posted on 01/30/2007 8:59:04 AM PST by fishtank
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Thanks Blam.

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21 posted on 01/30/2007 9:00:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
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What surprised me was the argument that a tribe of microcephalic humans survived for thousands of years.


22 posted on 01/30/2007 9:11:02 AM PST by Varda
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If they find DNA it'll be the Holy Grail for them. Within ten years we'll be breeding these little people.


24 posted on 01/30/2007 9:20:29 AM PST by Graymatter (Happy birthday Mr. Vice President!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Certainly, in order to Hobbitize, it would take countless generations. So, is there a fossil record?

What about the environment selected for Hobbits?

During what period of time could humans or their ancestors have first migrated to this island?

When did it first get cut off from other land masses thereby allowing for the process of Hobbitization to go forward without interruption?

Answers, anyone?


28 posted on 01/30/2007 10:20:13 AM PST by StructuredChaos
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Obligatory "Oooo look they said Hobbit," pingage.
29 posted on 01/30/2007 10:22:16 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.virginiaisforrudy.com)
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To: blam

Curious as to how they know its brain was 'rewired' since all they have are skeletal remains.


32 posted on 01/30/2007 1:00:13 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: blam
Really fascinating Blam

Now it will be a real banner year if the USFS archaeologists who hunts Big Foot on the side of her normal work can be successful this year.
33 posted on 01/30/2007 1:46:48 PM PST by Cold Heart
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Blam, I tried twice to post this one as a separate article (no luck on finding a single URL for it, but I have the whole text), so I'm pickin' this spot for it. Update to the GGG list members, to this January 2007 topic.
When archaeologists working on the Indonesian island of Flores announced a new species of human, Bob Eckhardt and colleagues set about debunking their claim
by Charles Fergus
updated April 23. 2007
Penn State
Anthropologists frequently cite a unique shape or placement of teeth when describing a new species. According to Morwood's team, a CT scan had demonstrated the absence of a third molar for LB1. Etty Indriati had found the existing socket and a tooth fragment where the "missing" molar should have been. But LB1's teeth displayed other peculiarities, including enlarged wear surfaces, long roots, and an unusual rotated position of premolars in the upper jaw. "Those traits were characterized as unique," says Eckhardt. "But it turns out that the rotated premolars are shared by about 20 percent of the people still living in Rampasasa, a village near Liang Bua." This particular Australomelanesian population is short-statured enough to be known as the Rampasasa pygmies. Many individuals in the population show receding chins (another supposed species-distinguishing characteristic), leading Eckhardt and his colleagues to state in their PNAS paper: "Absence of a chin cannot be a valid taxonomic character for the Liang Bua mandibles." The Jacob team contends that Morwood and his research group should have compared LB1's teeth with those of other populations in the same region, such as the Rampasasa cohort, rather than with Homo sapiens from other geographic areas of the world, principally Europe and Africa.
Base of LB1 skull showing socket of alleged "congenitally missing" upper right third molar. Courtesy R.B. Eckhardt

Evidence for abnormality

41 posted on 04/28/2007 9:56:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Saturday, April 28, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Wow, that is an astounding statistic! Is this a consensus fact?


47 posted on 04/29/2007 11:21:06 AM PDT by spyone
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