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Hagel for President
wsj opinionjournal ^ | 2 4 07 | wsj editors

Posted on 02/04/2007 8:53:01 AM PST by flixxx

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To: ReleaseTheHounds
That's alot easier and that's the route Hagel has taken.

Learned that one at the knee of his Sensei, John McCain.

21 posted on 02/04/2007 10:13:56 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack
Hagel is bought and paid for by the Muslims. The Muslims set up and contributed to Hagel's Sandhills PAC, the same Muslim family that was associated with Joe Wilson and Rock Creek. How Republicans in Nebraska can support this man is mind boggling.
22 posted on 02/04/2007 10:25:03 AM PST by Eva
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To: Eva
the same Muslim family that was associated with Joe Wilson and Rock Creek.

Do you have a name?

23 posted on 02/04/2007 10:29:04 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: IronJack

There are two names associated with Rock Creek and Sand Hills, one works for the other, I'm not sure which is the top family, but the names are Aburdene and Alamoudi.

Here's an old article:

Alamoudi's degrees of separation
by Dan Darling at November 8, 2005 9:34 AM

I see that Clarice Feldman has an interesting post up on Joe Wilson's earlier trip to Niger. It's well worth reading, but I think that some commentators are seizing upon this anecdote to a degree that Feldman never intended make the allegation that Wilson was actively involved with al-Qaeda:

“Wilson’s company was headquartered out of the offices of an investment company, Rock Creek Corporation, which was run by Mohammed Alamoudi who helped him gain access to markets in Africa ‘for his business’. ”

Now readers of this blog should know me well enough by now to have some idea of my opinion of Wilson. I'm not going to get into a debate on this, let's just say that I've developed it as a result of either "inference or unrelated personal experiences," and kudos to those who actually get that reference.

Now I know more than enough about Alamoudi to know the kind of pond scum the man was even before he was busted working with Libyan intelligence to set up an al-Qaeda plot to assassinate then-Crown Prince Abdullah. He was also tied into the biggest al-Qaeda financiers at the hip, including Yassin al-Qadi, Youssef Nada, and Ahmed Nasreddin, which is one of a great many reasons why I'm not shedding any tears for the man now that he's behind bars. But for those who are curious why neither political party has been willing to touch the issue of Alamoudi you need to have some understanding as far as just who all you can make the allegation that Alamoudi was in cahoots with to a far, far greater degree than Wilson, a short list of which would include quite a lot of people in the White House from current administration as well as Grover Norquist, Hillary Clinton, Carl Levin, John Conyers, Chris Cannon, and so on just going off memory. So don't expect any major political figure to get into any discussions about Wilson and Alamoudi at this point.

This is also the reason why the Democrats completely veered away from attacking the White House or Norquist during the last election on the issue of Alamoudi for those who are curious. The man was extremely powerful and influential during his time in Washington, which means he did enough legitimate business when he wasn't moonlighting as one of bin Laden's underlings to the point where he's too toxic for either side of the political spectrum.

Just my $0.02.


24 posted on 02/04/2007 10:32:59 AM PST by Eva
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To: flixxx

It is time to send Benedict Hagel a white flag - the newly adopted standard of the Liberal Traitors (and most Democraps)!


25 posted on 02/04/2007 10:41:09 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: IronJack

I forgot to mention that the Aburdenes were also involved in every fact finding trip that Hagel has taken to the Middle East as well as every think tank type event that Hagel has been involved in.


26 posted on 02/04/2007 10:53:32 AM PST by Eva
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To: flixxx; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; Kuksool; zbigreddogz; JohnnyZ; ...

HAGEL FOR RETIREMENT!!!!


27 posted on 02/04/2007 10:54:49 AM PST by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: flixxx

The choices are coming down to the bad, the worse, and the ugly.


28 posted on 02/04/2007 10:57:03 AM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: Clintonfatigued

The article makes a good point. It's correct in saying McCain and Lieberman are a lot more 'brave' then Hagel, and it calls him out pretty well.

Anyhow, Chuck Hagel and Ron Paul are the only two Republicans that will 100% assure that I will vote D. It will be one of the saddest moments of my life, but I'll do it anyway. I absolutely refuse to cut and run under a Republican President. If we are going to do that, I want a Democrat to be responsible for the inevitable.


29 posted on 02/04/2007 10:59:17 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: RightWhale
The choices are coming down to the bad, the worse, and the ugly.

You can say that again.

I'm willing to give Duncan Hunter a chance, we'll see how he does.

30 posted on 02/04/2007 11:00:03 AM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Eva
Hagel-Alamoudi-Wilson-Norquist-?

I've got to figure Mohammed thinks Hagel is a pretty small coin in his purse. But that connection could sink UpChuck's chances for the presidency if it became common knowledge.

31 posted on 02/04/2007 11:04:23 AM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

"The choices are coming down to the bad, the worse, and the ugly."

Our presidential field gets more unbelievably worse every day.


32 posted on 02/04/2007 11:06:30 AM PST by Luke21
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To: zbigreddogz

How can you ever vote Democrat? That's like cutting your own throat because you feel a little gas.


33 posted on 02/04/2007 11:08:05 AM PST by Luke21
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To: IronJack

The Aburdene's worked for Alamoudi and it was the Aburdenes who set up the Sandhills PAC for Hagel.


34 posted on 02/04/2007 11:08:30 AM PST by Eva
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To: Luke21

No, it's like saving the future of the party.

If we cut and run, we are going to get hit. Hard. A nuke will go off in Baltimore, or Tampa, or Dallas, or San Diego, or Los Angeles, etc. It'll happen. I have no doubt. And if it's going to happen, I want a Democrat to get blamed for it. If Hagel or Paul is President, they'll cut and run and we'll get hit too, but then, Repubicans will get blamed.

Bottom line, when the inevitable happens, I'd rather have a D get blamed then an R. If R's lose their edge on war and security issues, we'll go the way of the whigs.


35 posted on 02/04/2007 11:20:11 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: flixxx

"I just think that the tide will turn in Iraq and leave a lot of Dems and some Republicans scrambling in Nov 08..."

It will take Divine intervention, but that's what we prayer warriors ought to be asking the Lord for every day. He can overcome our mistakes and frailities and secure victory, if He wills.


36 posted on 02/04/2007 11:24:31 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: kittymyrib

God's already given us Divine intervention. He's given us M-16's and General Petraeus.


37 posted on 02/04/2007 11:25:43 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
It would be a net gain for all.

It would undoubtedly improve the average IQ of the US Congers (now hovering around 70) and the Venezualan presidensity.

38 posted on 02/04/2007 11:31:41 AM PST by Ole Okie (Even Planet Mars is warming. Any SUV's on Mars lately?)
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To: Clintonfatigued
HAGEL FOR RETIREMENT!!!!

HAGEL FOR AMBASSADOR TO ANTARTICA!
39 posted on 02/04/2007 11:59:19 AM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief
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To: IronJack

Liberals and gutless RINOs like Hagel never mention the aftermath of Vietnam, the thousands who died at the hands of communists. The minute we withdraw, the media will cease their coverage of Iraq, much like they did to South Africa when apartheid ended but crime skyrocketed.


40 posted on 02/04/2007 12:03:18 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Forgot your tagline? Click here to have it resent!)
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