Will auld acquaintance be forgot as Scots go it alone?

The Times (London, UK) ^ | March 31, 2007 | Martin Fletcher

[Jack_Macca]

the Brits are still trying to stamp out Scottish culture

I cannot take you seriously when you say things like that. Scotland is part of Great Britain. Scots are the Brits as much as the English. Great Britain only exists because of the union of Scotland and England.

That is like saying Americans are trying to stamp out the culture of Florida/Kansas/New York. It's a logical fallacy.

Anyway, Scots are free to do what they want. I should know, I am one. If there is anything I cannot do please let me know.

[Jack_Macca]

You really are a rambler aren’t you. Firstly, you insult the people of Scotland, Ireland and the Ukraine by calling them the “dregs”. Then you you search all my posts like an obsessive stalker to get offended (even when I state how much I love Canada).

Maybe you are too used to wearing a kilt at your “let’s pretend I am Scottish” meetings and have forgotten it’s not a skirt.

Nemo me impune lacessit

[GMMAC]

You've really got this thing with dismissive nonsense like "rambler" don't you? ... but then, that's how liberals, ex-wives, and presumably newbies with no manners and/or debating skills operate.

I suppose I shouldn't be surprised someone who announced their presence on the thread with insulting arrogant nay-saying would eventually 'progress' to a hysterically girlie-man accusation like calling me an "obsessive stalker" - SHEESH !!!

Let's see: I employed a commonly-used - at least to those not brand new around here - search tool to access your so far under 20 comments & no posted articles.
Surely, you can't possibly be contending that required picking up a magnifying glass & donning the ol' deerstalker cap ???
Funny how, with such a 'massive' posting history, a little thing like you cavalierly, to date unapologetically & Trollishly blowing off 2 years worth of Allied WW2 casualties somehow stuck out like the proverbial sore thumb !!!

[Jack_Macca]

I see you are desperately looking to change the subject from me objecting to you calling the Irish, Scottish and Ukrainians the “dregs” to some hysterical offence at something I didn’t say! LOL

As well as embarrassingly looking for help from others. Poor wee thing.

[Constantine XIII]

Is this still going on? LOL!

[fanfan]

According to you, you.... Don't know or care about Russia or the Ukraine

Now you are offended on their behalf?

Try to keep your story straight around here Jack.

[BnBlFlag]

Scotland won’t be “going it alone”. They’ll quietly be submerged willingly into the dark underbelly of the European Union. England might have a good shot at remaining indepedent without the Socialist Scots acting like a millstone tied around their neck.
BTW, I (Scots-Irish here) agree with your assessment of the present day Scots. The best left long ago.

[Snowyman]

As well as embarrassingly looking for help from others

Oh, I don't think GMMAC ever needs any help. He does eventually get to the point even with his tendency to be a bit long winded .:)

I do think dregs is a bit over the top . Those that stayed put found accommodation to do so and there is nothing wrong with that although by staying put I know they missed the boat in more ways than one. Their loss.

[Hardastarboard]

The Scottish nationalism of those days was angry, confrontational and fiercely anti-English

Gee, it's not like the English had abused them for centuries or anything.

[Jack_Macca]

I disagree with the last bit, but that is a fair point. That is all I am looking for.

I love my country the same way you love yours, and this “dregs” stuff is nonsense and unnecessarily insulting.

[Jack_Macca]

Where did I say I was offended by what he said about Ukraine?

[Jack_Macca]

Are you too suggesting like GMMAC that the genetically superior Scots left years ago?

If so, you are suggesting something that is scientifically and philosophically absurd.

When was emigration of the poor - like in Ireland or Scotland of centuries ago - a rational choice of the superior? When was being forced to leave your land because of violence or starvation transformed into the choice of the “best”?

There must be something seriously wrong with Scottish culture that produces such people and comments, when the exact same circumstances of the Irish produces only friendship for modern Ireland.

[fanfan]

Here.

me objecting to you calling the Irish, Scottish and Ukrainians the “dregs”

[GMMAC]

"... offence at something I didn’t say!"

Oh, you said it all right !!!

It's linked in my comment #30 & I encourage all to give a look to see that's precisely what you said without any question of ambiguous context whatsoever.

Only a Troll would get on his high horse & outright deny such an blatant & churlish slight when it's plainly there in black & white.

Then having the gall to call me a "stalker" for pointing out your offense: a shameless, whining girlie Troll!

[Jack_Macca]

When does objecting to something mean the same as being offended?

Objecting is a neutral non-emotive term. Being offended is being emotional and subjective.

If you were at my home and some other guest called you an idiot, I may object out of good manners as you are my guest, but not be offended as you may well be an idiot.

[kanawa]

Welcome to FR Jack_ Macca

How d'ya like it so far? ;~D

[Jack_Macca]

Stop being hysterical. LOL

[Jack_Macca]

Thanks. LOL

I am the one second from the back.

[wideminded]

Back in the 1970s Edinburgh was an austere place that even the Bay City Rollers struggled to enliven.

I visited Edinburgh once around this time. It was the only city I have ever been in where the entire sky was brown. There were Scottish bank notes circulating which were brown also.

[Jack_Macca]

I visited Edinburgh once around this time. It was the only city I have ever been in where the entire sky was brown. There were Scottish bank notes circulating which were brown also.

That famous Scottish brown sky. A fact that has puzzled meteorologists for the last thousand years. "Why is the sky brown in Scotland, but blue everywhere else on Earth?", they have long asked. Is this the level of debate?

Although the almost certain next UK Prime Minister, a Scot, is called Gordon Brown. Maybe this is a secret conspiratorial symbol of "The Da Vinci Code" proportions! Hehe.