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War Of The Pyramid Theorists
Jerusalem Post ^ | 4-1-2007 | Yaniv Salama-Scheer - Jorg Luyken

Posted on 04/02/2007 4:37:58 PM PDT by blam

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1 posted on 04/02/2007 4:38:00 PM PDT by blam
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.


2 posted on 04/02/2007 4:39:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Voyages Of The Pyramid Builders

Book Description

Is it a mere coincidence that pyramids are found across our globe? Did cultures ranging across vast spaces in geography and time, such as the ancient Egyptians; early Buddhists; the Maya, Inca, Toltec, and Aztec civilizations of the Americas; the Celts of the British Isles; and even the Mississippi Indians of pre-Columbian Illinois, simply dream the same dreams and envision the same structures?

Scientist and tenured university professor Robert M. Schoch-one of the world's preeminent geologists in recasting the date of the Great Sphinx-believes otherwise. In this dramatic and meticulously reasoned book, Schoch, like anthropologist Thor Heyerdahl in his classic Kon-Tiki, argues that ancient cultures traveled great distances by sea. Indeed, he believes that primeval sailors traveled from the Eastern continent, primarily Southeast Asia, and spread the idea of pyramids across the Earth, involving the human species in a far greater degree of contact and exchange than experts have previously thought possible.

Voyages of the Pyramid Builders features sixteen pages of color photos and a special appendix, "Redating the Great Sphinx of Giza," in which Schoch provides his most up-to-date evidence of the Sphinx's older origins.

3 posted on 04/02/2007 4:42:11 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I had never heard the claim that the Jews built the pyramids. Is this just some mid-east notion passed along?


4 posted on 04/02/2007 4:53:55 PM PDT by Socratic (To persevere is to laugh again.)
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To: blam

The Bible doesn’t say the Israelites built the pyramids - it says “And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.” Ex 1:11. “Pyramid” doesn’t appear in the Bible.


5 posted on 04/02/2007 5:05:44 PM PDT by Squidpup ("Fight the Good Fight")
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To: Berosus
cc: berosus :')
The list of scholars who align themselves with this train of thought is headed by Egypt's Chairman of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, Dr. Zahi Hawass. In 2002, a team led by Hawass explored unopened chambers inside the pyramids using new technology, and at the end of the process a triumphant Hawass told the world press that his findings, particularly the skeleton of a fourth-century Egyptian, showed that the pyramids were "not built by slaves," but rather by the "great Egyptians."
If Hawass sez it, it must be true -- just like he said that the Great Pyramid has a mere million stones, and that they are on average a mere 500 pounds each. Of course there were slaves in ancient Egypt. The feel-good cheerful noble peasant model is a modern load of dung.

The Israelites weren't in Egypt during the 19th Dynasty -- regardless of the chronology employed, the first known reference to "Israel" in Egyptian records dates from the 19th century and refers to a military campaign outside of Egypt.

The Israelites in Egyptian bondage built with mud brick, and that (and other stuff) points to the monuments of the 12th and 13th Dynasties, i.o.w., the Middle Kingdom.

Blam, I'll ping when I get home. (':
6 posted on 04/02/2007 5:19:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Oh, yow. Ahmed Osman — the buffoon claims that the ancient Egyptians created ballet (not makin’ this up), also claims various Biblical Kings of Israel were really Egyptian pharaohs, even to the point of screwing up the Biblical chronology such that it’s a loop.


7 posted on 04/02/2007 5:22:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Squidpup

Yeah, this is just another provocation by the anti-historical Arab propagandists.


8 posted on 04/02/2007 5:22:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: blam

At this time I believe the Israelites built the Pyramid and furthermore the Pharoah was Jewish.


9 posted on 04/02/2007 5:24:36 PM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: blam

BTTT


10 posted on 04/02/2007 5:27:00 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: RightWhale

Yep, Pharoah Goldberg.


11 posted on 04/02/2007 5:27:38 PM PDT by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: Socratic
nary a mention:
Josephus identifies the Israelite Exodus with the first exodus mentioned by Manetho, when some 480,000 Hyksos “shepherds” left Egypt for Jerusalem.[3] The mention of “Hyksos” identifies this first exodus with the Hyksos period (16th century BCE). If Manetho mentioned “Jerusalem”, it may correspond with the Biblical account when Israelites under Joshua defeated the army of Jerusalem’s city-king (Joshua 10:23). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos

and:

“The prime result of this investigation was the distinct possibility that the Great Pyramid of Giza is mentioned many times within the biblical texts, it is just that its name has been changed to Mt Sinai.
You can take or reject this scenario as you wish, but the bottom line is that from Abraham to Joseph (who was the second most powerful man in Egypt after the pharaoh), the links between biblical history and Egypt are very strong indeed. It was from those links that the importance of the number 40 slipped into biblical history.”
http://www.world-mysteries.com/gw_rellis5.htm

12 posted on 04/02/2007 5:50:55 PM PDT by GoforBroke
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To: Socratic
I had never heard the claim that the Jews built the pyramids. Is this just some mid-east notion passed along?

First time I heard it.

13 posted on 04/02/2007 5:53:46 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: RightWhale
"At this time I believe the Israelites built the Pyramid and furthermore the Pharoah was Jewish."

A statue of Pharaoh Menkaure and his consort, Khamerernebti II, dating from the 4th Dynasty (2575 - 2467 BC).

(This guy looks like an old picture I have of my dad...without the head-gear, of course...he was haplotype R1b)

14 posted on 04/02/2007 5:53:56 PM PDT by blam
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To: Squidpup

However, Isaiah 19: 19 -20 has this astonishing passage:

“19 ¶ In that day shall there be an altar to the LORD in the midst of the land of Egypt, and a pillar at the border thereof to the LORD.

20 And it shall be for a sign and for a witness unto the LORD of hosts in the land of Egypt

http://www.bartleby.com/108/23/19.html


15 posted on 04/02/2007 6:00:24 PM PDT by GoforBroke
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To: blam

This is the only place I have ever heard that The Hebrews might have built the pyramids. They were building stuff in Exodus but there is no hint that it was pyramidal. I think we have here a hastily erected Jewish Straw Man.


16 posted on 04/02/2007 6:05:16 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: RightWhale

I’ve always found it very interesting (despite the vague timelines) that we have a tradition that Moses was part of the royal family. When one couples that with a sudden mass emigration by Jews at or around the time of Akhenaten, the Pharoh who tried to turn Egypt monotheistic, it leads to a myriad of interesting theories.


17 posted on 04/02/2007 6:09:33 PM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Androcles

There was no “sudden mass emigration by Jews at or around the time of Akhenaten”.


18 posted on 04/02/2007 10:59:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; Brujo; ...
While weeding the GGG list on the weekend, I came across this quote on Former Dodger's profile. It's apropos.
Theodore Dalrymple, in a recent interview:
"Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to."
one of those topics. :')
 
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19 posted on 04/02/2007 11:04:49 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv
I came across this quote on Former Dodger's profile. It's apropos.
Theodore Dalrymple, in a recent interview:
"Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, nor to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is to co-operate with evil, and in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to."

20 posted on 04/02/2007 11:17:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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