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Steve Torgersen, a Norwegian mining expert, shows the size of a fossil footprint of a hippopotamus-like creature, a pantodont, on the roof of a coal mine on the Norwegian Arctic island of Spitsbergen April 24, 2007. (Francois Lenoir/Reuters)


1 posted on 04/25/2007 7:58:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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Rosie?


2 posted on 04/25/2007 8:01:00 PM PDT by trek
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Places that used to be very hot have now become terribly cold — and THAT’S why we should be afraid of Global Warming!!!!!


3 posted on 04/25/2007 8:01:38 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
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Pantodonts, uintatheres and xenungulates:
The first large herbivorous mammals

http://www.paleocene-mammals.de/large_herbivores.htm


4 posted on 04/25/2007 8:02:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... In FReeP We Trust ...)
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millions of years ago when greenhouse gas concentrations in the air were high

Looks like something besides humans was making a big carbon buttprint.

5 posted on 04/25/2007 8:03:31 PM PDT by JillValentine (Being a feminist is all about being a victim. Being an armed woman is all about not being a victim.)
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They must not have been very heavy if they could walk on the ceiling!


6 posted on 04/25/2007 8:05:03 PM PDT by SouthTexas (Man made global warming is a man made LIE!)
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And the risk is what exactly? Hippos will migrage north?


7 posted on 04/25/2007 8:05:54 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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"Where we are now was once a temperate rainforest," he said on Tuesday, at the end of a horizontal mine shaft 5 kms (3 miles) inside a mountain and 300 meters (600 feet) below the surface.

Huh? A temperate rain forest with footprints inside a mountain 600 feet below the surface?????

8 posted on 04/25/2007 8:11:12 PM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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And where was Norway in relation to the Equator 55 million years ago? The continents do drift over time.


9 posted on 04/25/2007 8:19:22 PM PDT by hc87
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This is really getting ridiculous! The fossils they are talking about are 55 million years old. They have nothing to do with modern global warming.

The article says that it was hot then (and evidence indicates that it was), “when CO2 levels were high.” True, but CO2 levels tend to get high when the climate is warm. The best records indicate that increases in atmospheric CO2 follow climate warming, but the article makes it sound as if CO2 increase caused the warming 55 MY ago. If so, who did it? Were the animals in America making too much CO2? Were they letting out too much methane? Were the pantodonts driving cars?

The tone of the article makes it sound as if it would be really bad to have a wee bit of Florida near Norway. The pantodonts might come back, and possibly might frighten people terribly, assuming that the pantodonts could miraculously return from their extinction long ago.

This article is one of the best examples of climate-phobic extremism I have encountered. It is really getting crazy out there in liberal-land.

Note that the Norwegians who found these fossils were mining. And guess what they were mining? Coal! You know, the black material made mainly of carbon. When you burn it, it makes CO2. So what are these sanctimonious Norwegians doing burning coal? Are they heating their houses, heedless of the possible world-wide consequences? What a bunch of hypocritical sissies. They can’t take a little freezing for the good of the world.


11 posted on 04/25/2007 8:21:18 PM PDT by docbnj
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I thought these Green freaks love the rain forest? They want ice instead? There’s no pleasing some people.


12 posted on 04/25/2007 8:21:35 PM PDT by Mr. Peabody
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Fossils of a hippopotamus-like creature on an Arctic island show the climate was once like that of Florida, giving clues to risks from modern global warming, a scientist said.

It's fortunate that we humans have brains and initiative. We can probably figure out how to adapt to either global warming or cooling.

14 posted on 04/25/2007 8:32:24 PM PDT by SuziQ
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"...a hippopotamus-like creature, a pantodont..."

I think that must be a misspelling. The creature was actually a pantsuitodont. Some are still believed to be roaming around the northeast US, with occasional sightings around Chapaqua, New York, and Washington, DC.
16 posted on 04/25/2007 8:38:33 PM PDT by omnivore
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"The climate here about 55 million years ago was more like that of Florida," Appy Sluijs, an expert in ancient ecology at Utrecht University in the Netherlands, said in Coal Mine Seven on the Norwegian archipelago of Svalbard. "Where we are now was once a temperate rainforest,"

And the downside here is....?

17 posted on 04/25/2007 8:45:00 PM PDT by Unruly Human
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If you were ever concerned about global warming, this should put those fears to rest.


18 posted on 04/25/2007 9:08:14 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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The problem back then:


19 posted on 04/25/2007 9:09:58 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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I read at one point the Russians were considering opting out of Kyoto, because if it happened, Siberia would become bread-basket paradise.

In the end, they signed it because they knew they would become a make billions as a payee nation, and they didn’t think global warming would really occur anyway.


23 posted on 04/25/2007 10:00:55 PM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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COAL MINE SEVEN, Svalbard, Norway (Reuters) - Fossils of a hippopotamus-like creature on an Arctic island show the climate was once like that of Florida, giving clues to risks from modern global warming, a scientist said.

Fossil footprints of a pantodont, a plant-eating creature weighing about 400 kg (880 lb), add to evidence of sequoia-type trees and crocodile-like beasts in the Arctic millions of years ago when greenhouse gas concentrations in the air were high.

"The climate here about 55 million years ago was more like that of Florida," Appy Sluijs, an expert in ancient ecology at Utrecht University in the Netherlands, said in Coal Mine Seven on the Norwegian archipelago of Svalbard.

Next, they'll find humanoid fossils in the Arctic.

25 posted on 04/25/2007 10:21:20 PM PDT by Razz Barry (,i)
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Where was that land mass with respect to the equator 55 million years ago? That in and of itself could explain the temperature: i.e. maybe it was at Florida’s Latitude....


26 posted on 04/26/2007 8:15:09 AM PDT by Freeport
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"The climate here about 55 million years ago was more like that of Florida," Appy Sluijs, an expert in ancient ecology at Utrecht University in the Netherlands, said in Coal Mine Seven on the Norwegian archipelago of Svalbard.

And were humans around to cause that warming?

The stuff these "scientists" trot out as proof of the dangers of human-caused global warming defy logic.

28 posted on 04/26/2007 8:19:00 AM PDT by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08/But Fred would also be great)
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