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Strategists still see 'solid South' for Republicans
The Washington Times ^ | June 10, 2007 | Donald Lambro

Posted on 06/10/2007 12:01:53 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton continues to dominate her rivals in the early Southern Democratic primary states, but her high negatives and polarizing image likely will keep the South in the Republican column in 2008, according to strategists and analysts in the region.

Still, analysts who track political trends in the Sunbelt states say Republicans have been hurt by the party's divisive battle over immigration, especially in the South. That could help Democrats next year in Southern states such as Florida and Arkansas if Republicans are not unified behind their party's presidential nominee, they say.

"I don't think Hillary Clinton would run very well among white voters. But if the Republicans not united around their nominee, that would give someone like Hillary an opportunity," said Merle Black, a political historian and analyst at Emory University in Georgia.

"I think there has been a lot of disaffection among Republicans in the South for President Bush, especially as a result of the immigration debate, but I don't think that creates more Democrats in the South. If the Republicans are able to nominate someone who puts a different face on the party, then the Republicans will be back in the ballgame," Mr. Black said.

Recent polls show Mrs. Clinton, the front-runner for her party's nomination, lengthening her lead among Democrats in party preference polls in Florida. But she trails former New York City Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani, the Republican front-runner, by five points in a head-to-head matchup, according to a Quinnipiac University poll last week.

Former President Bill Clinton, the last Democratic candidate to make electoral inroads in the South, "will campaign for her and that will play itself out, but she is a very different candidate than Bill Clinton, and she will resonate very differently in the South,"

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; elections; lambro; redstates
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To: ckilmer
what candidate could the pubbies put up that would be as equally in your face to the dems [?]

Newt Gingrich? Alan Keyes? [Neither one would be a good idea, of course, since neither could win the election]

21 posted on 06/10/2007 12:27:56 PM PDT by sourcery (Double Feature: "The Amnestyville Horror" and "Kill the Bill, Vol. 2")
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To: LdSentinal
Only John Edwards would have a shot at the South.

Why? Southerners vote values not geography.

22 posted on 06/10/2007 12:28:52 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: LibertarianInExile

“Boy, did he ever get that right!”

The GOP needs a new face perhaps, but Ron Paul ain’t the right man, imo.


23 posted on 06/10/2007 12:28:57 PM PDT by Princip. Conservative
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To: Always Right

“Why? Southerners vote values not geography.”

Exactly. Just look how much John Edwards helped John Kerry in 2004. Edwards’ home state of North Carolina even went solidly Republican, in spite of many expectations to the contrary. Ideology still is very important in the South and I fully expect most, if not all, of the South to go Republican in 2008. Many people don’t realize just how conservative the region is. Quite frankly, I think there’s a greater likelihood that a Northeastern state would vote Republican than a southern state to vote Democratic - at least for the most part.


24 posted on 06/10/2007 12:31:19 PM PDT by Princip. Conservative
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To: LdSentinal

Please! John Edwards couldn’t take his own state.


25 posted on 06/10/2007 12:32:59 PM PDT by kcar ( If we build it they won't come (illegally).)
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To: DugwayDuke

Newt should shut his big ass mouth. He’s a has been and should crawl back under the rock he came from. It’s people like Newt who has hurt the republican party. It’s about character not pontificating.


26 posted on 06/10/2007 12:35:54 PM PDT by mimaw
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To: LdSentinal

“Only John Edwards would have a shot at the South.”

I take it you have never been to the South. Please tell me that’s true, otherwise you are delusional.


27 posted on 06/10/2007 12:36:11 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: thegreatmalcolmx

Against Rudy Guiliani?


28 posted on 06/10/2007 12:36:53 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin2
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To: Princip. Conservative

I’m still open to convincing, but right now, the only man of the ten who I am 100% certain hasn’t voted for anything unConstitutional? Ron Paul.


29 posted on 06/10/2007 12:37:21 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("What a cruel reflection that a rich country cannot long be a free one." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mimaw

“Newt should shut his big ass mouth. He’s a has been and should crawl back under the rock he came from. It’s people like Newt who has hurt the republican party. It’s about character not pontificating.”

Bump to every single thing you said. His judgment when it comes to building a party may have been the right stuff at the right time, but after he was elected Speaker, he’s been nothing but a failure, politically and morally.


30 posted on 06/10/2007 12:39:55 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ("What a cruel reflection that a rich country cannot long be a free one." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: WoofDog123

“talk about a round-about way of calling it like it is.”

Well, Bill didn’t exactly sweep the South. He only got 4 Southern states in both elections.


31 posted on 06/10/2007 12:44:52 PM PDT by L98Fiero (A fool who'll waste his life, God rest his guts.)
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To: George W. Bush

The polls which are constantly being trumpeted by Dick Morris and other Rudy boosters that show him defeating Hillary or Obama in the South and elsewhere are a classic example of a false alternative. If the choice were Rudy and one of those two, (and one only) then these polls would have some credence. The problem with these polls is that it will not be between Rudy and a single Democrat. His positions, which are anathema to conservatives, will spawn a third party challenge that will peel off 15-20% of the GOP vote, placing many formerly bright red states in play. Rudy is the one Republican whose defeat is absolutely certain. Even McCain is not as much of a goner, although he is getting there fast.

Fred Thompson, on the other hand, is well positioned to pick up all the pieces. He is the only one who would both unite and energize the party and create an opportunity to pick off Reagan Democrats and independents. This is the only recipe for GOP victory in a tough year.


32 posted on 06/10/2007 12:48:22 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: DeaconBenjamin2

You bet.

All any Republican would have to do is show that infamous photo of her reading a book at an Arkansas game. They hate her. Even Rudy would be more acceptable.

Every day, I hope more and more she is the candidate. Any republican will win by a landslide. And that is not just the weed talking.


33 posted on 06/10/2007 12:48:55 PM PDT by thegreatmalcolmx (I came to love white people. At least that is what I was taught in my black history class.)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Yeah, the race will be between Fred and Romney, IMHO, and with Fred having a big edge. I can’t believe their aren’t any political pundents who give Fred a chance when in reality all the pieces are coming together for him.


34 posted on 06/10/2007 12:53:23 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Brices Crossroads
Fred Thompson, on the other hand, is well positioned to pick up all the pieces. He is the only one who would both unite and energize the party

Pick up pieces? That sounds too much like manual labor. Fred has a hard time energizing himself mentally. Don't ask him to actually roll up his sleeves and sweat.

The party will have to pick Fred up in his barcalounger and carry him across the line, because sure doesn't show any inclination to use his own legs.

35 posted on 06/10/2007 12:56:06 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: Always Right

I can’t figure out whether it will be Rudy or Romney that is left standing to face Fred. I think it is safe to say that FDT can, and will, dispatch either or both of them. IMHO


36 posted on 06/10/2007 12:57:23 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: Always Right
I can’t believe their aren’t any political pundents who give Fred a chance when in reality all the pieces are coming together for him.

The only thing that has come together for Fred is an illusion hyped up by his supporters.

37 posted on 06/10/2007 12:58:30 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: DugwayDuke

Run against Bush? He’s not going to be on the ballot. I’d run against RAT idiology of socialism and the fact they’re totally amoral.


38 posted on 06/10/2007 12:59:17 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: JCEccles

Nice to see you on this thread bashing Fred as lazy, which I have seen on many threads you post on. You offer no evidence of this as if repeating it over and over again will somehow make it true. I remember the same complaints about Reagan, who carried 44 and 49 states. The GOP needs that kind of laziness.


39 posted on 06/10/2007 1:01:09 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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To: KenmcG414
The RATS should lose because of the reasons you gave. Republicans also have a very bad habit of not taking credit for the things they've done correctly.

Where would we be economically if Gore or Kerry had been elected? What would they have done to protect the US from radical Islam. Democrats do everything they can to help terrorists. What more does any thinking American need to know?

40 posted on 06/10/2007 1:02:30 PM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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