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To: hunter112

In all seriousness I would think the 10th amendment may allow for this.

I don’t see a difference; I have to respect his assessment of the situation as it existed not as he wished it to be. I honestly don’t recall what Clinton + the Republican congress proposed but I am certain it was half hearted feel good legislation at best, and as someone in the trenches he understood it was pointless.

I think we have to accept at this stage of the game is that mass enforcement of existing laws are impossible after a 30 year lapse, you may want some kind of mythical magical deportation process, it’s not happening.

We need to pass some kind of legislation that is ONLY for identification and documentation to actively weed out gang members and so forth, none of this will ever happen unless there is a nationwide, crushing and overwhelming legal crackdown on business. No swat teams raiding construction sites and BS sob stories in the New York Times of families being torn apart. All it takes is a DHS/IRS guy in a suit exercising the legitimate power that the federal government does and should have.

Pick a state, pick the largest employer of illegals, walk in to the HR office, give them 90 days to make sure their employees have said new identification card. After 90 days come back with massive, overwhelming, punitive fines. The first target of this will probably be greatly hurt financially, everybody else will comply, and there goes your sanctuary and immunity.

And if that means more expensive lettuce, so be it.


12 posted on 06/15/2007 11:08:15 AM PDT by rice08
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To: rice08
This is one of those cases that I'm for a national ID card, as a basis of a right to work. If you're out of the job market, but anticipate getting in, you pony up your birth certificate, driver's license, passport, existing SS card, etc., and after a couple weeks of background check to verify you, you get some electronically protected ID, that also contains biometric information to match up to an individual. Then, you can apply for a job.

Next phase would be for those sucking on the public teat. I make them next, because I don't want them clogging up the wheels of bureaucracy ahead of those willing to work for a living. Then, you move on to people already employed, and weed out the last level of illegals. An amnesty of "go back, and apply for resident status" is offered to those who have employer-sponsored support, and who did NOT steal someone else's SSN or identity to get in. The IRS gives taxpayer identification numbers to anyone who wants them, no questions asked, so there has been no excuse for identity theft.

Dry up the jobs, and the bennies, and the illegals deport themselves over the next few years. No sudden impact on any industry that is not substantially employing illegals, and no riots in the streets or sob stories of the kind you describe.

14 posted on 06/15/2007 11:23:10 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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