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To: GodGunsGuts

I’m totally confused here......the Creationists are revelling in the fact that this find throws a “monkey-wrench” into the complexities of Evolutionist theory YET at the same time they’re acknowledging that this fossilized forest is millions of years old. I always thought diehard creationists would only admit that the Earth is 7,000 years old and thats it (or something like that). It seems to me that it’s just one more piece to a impossible puzzle that no one can totally figure out.


14 posted on 07/30/2007 2:10:12 PM PDT by brent1a (You're a great American! NO, YOU'RE A GREAT AMERICAN!!!!)
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To: brent1a

don’t even bother asking questions, it will get you nowhere


18 posted on 07/30/2007 2:12:17 PM PDT by babble-on
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You see, there are young earth creationists, and there are old earth creationists. An old earth is fine with the old earth creationists.


22 posted on 07/30/2007 2:16:32 PM PDT by dontposttome
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To: brent1a

complexities of evolutionary theory? No, there is no theory. It’s just a lot of stories applied on an ad hoc basis to give the illusion it explains everything. Just as ptolemaic theory appears complex and explanatory because poof! you add an epicycle whenever the data doesn’t fit the original model.


25 posted on 07/30/2007 2:19:38 PM PDT by ari-freedom (An expert is a person who avoids the small errors while sweeping on to the grand fallacy.)
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To: brent1a

“..diehard creationists would only admit that the Earth is 7,000 years old and thats it (or something like that).”

I agree - it was created on a Friday the 13th.


30 posted on 07/30/2007 2:24:59 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: brent1a
I’m totally confused here......the Creationists are revelling in the fact that this find throws a “monkey-wrench” into the complexities of Evolutionist theory YET at the same time they’re acknowledging that this fossilized forest is millions of years old. I always thought diehard creationists would only admit that the Earth is 7,000 years old and thats it (or something like that). It seems to me that it’s just one more piece to a impossible puzzle that no one can totally figure out.

There are a lot of us who don't see the gap between science and the Bible.. of course, we aren't 'Young Earthers'.. The problem a lot of people have (on both sides) is trying to apply the How (Science) to the Why (Bible) and vice versa and thinking that the Why is the How and the How is the Why.. Thusly, the 'Young Earth' creationists are always trying to refute science that contradicts their interpretation of the Bible and atheist evolutionists are unable to answer the statistical improbabilities for many of the fundamental trigger events and intangibles- such as the faith they are trying to refute.

I consider myself a theo-evolutionist. (this is not 'intelligent design' which just tries to plug God into whatever gap that science has.)

32 posted on 07/30/2007 2:26:04 PM PDT by mnehring (Ron Paul is as much of a Constitutionalist as Fred Phelps is a Christian)
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To: brent1a

” I always thought diehard creationists would only admit that the Earth is 7,000 years old “

bingo!


43 posted on 07/30/2007 2:38:47 PM PDT by spanalot
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To: brent1a

“I always thought diehard creationists would only admit that the Earth is 7,000 years old “

NOPE!
That’s just the small group that evo’s like to point to.


73 posted on 07/30/2007 3:06:01 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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I always thought diehard creationists would only admit that the Earth is 7,000 years old and thats it (or something like that).

For myself, I take the view that the universe is probably very old, and yet still maintain that Genesis was the inspired word of God (although I allow that God could have created the universe to simply look old, this seems unlikely to me).

I hold that God's messages to mankind in Genesis are plentiful and profound, but are geared toward understanding the human spiritual condition, not to advancing the physical sciences. Conversely, our discoveries about how vast creation is in size, detail, and time, is evidence that God may has been understating His own greatness.

Moreover, current science strongly suggests that the universe, though very old, could not have simply always existed. Which I see as being a big problem for any non-trascendent philosophy, including naturalism and related forms of atheism.

76 posted on 07/30/2007 3:07:50 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: brent1a

They (We)..don’t it only places evoutionary theory in jeopardy in its current form becuase supposedly in their theorized timeline mangroves didn’t evolve in this “strata” of rock since they were supposed to have evolved millions of years later according to evolutionary theory..It’s like finding an apple computer in the ruins of troy!


155 posted on 07/30/2007 5:40:03 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Republicans if the don't beware ARE the new WHIGS! (all empty hairpieces..) :).)
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To: brent1a

We have a winner!!!! We admit that the Earth is old so the evil evolutionists cannot be right!!!! Some Monty Python anyone?


200 posted on 07/30/2007 7:37:37 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (NSDQ)
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To: brent1a

Why do you believe others believe the Earth is 7000 years or so old?


324 posted on 08/01/2007 3:51:34 PM PDT by Hostage (Fred Thompson will be President.)
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