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1 posted on 08/03/2007 9:18:24 AM PDT by bnelson44
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***A U.S. success would throw a wrench in their plans.***

I’d rather throw a wrench somewhere else.

Oops.


2 posted on 08/03/2007 9:21:26 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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"Given the position they have staked out for themselves, the best possible outcome is for Gen. David Petraeus to give a downbeat report on the surge"

Regardless of his words they will be reported as being downbeat.


3 posted on 08/03/2007 9:24:42 AM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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But at least they aren’t betting on — haven’t staked their hopes on — American failure.

Who would want to do that?

America's ENEMIES

Power crazed, traitorous, ideologues, that's who

4 posted on 08/03/2007 9:27:05 AM PDT by Wil H (So just what IS the Globe's optimum temperature?)
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What a great way to process a war. When our young men and women are fighting and dieing for this country and half of our Congress is against them for being there, does not say much for this country.


5 posted on 08/03/2007 9:29:07 AM PDT by RC2
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When will the NIE be published that acurately reflects the Opposition to the war and dissent in the U.S. Congress against the President and his policies are the cause of our enemy being emboldened...

Oh never mind I’m sure that it has been and I’m sure that it was leaked to the NYT but since it doesn’t fit the template it was never published.


6 posted on 08/03/2007 9:29:36 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Obama worse then Chirac and major danger to U.S. has taken the Nuke option off the table.)
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By betting so much of their political capital on the issue, Reid and Pelosi have become invested in U.S. failure. A U.S. success would throw a wrench in their plans.

This is true, but it's also just the tip of the iceberg. We always assume the lefties aren't thinking long term- that they can't see past the next election to the existential danger this country faces from Islamofascism.

But I just don't think this is true. They DO think long term, and they understand that victory doesn't just loose elections for them, it creates a strong, pro-American, pro-independent national identity that is polar opposite of the socialistic, open-borders world government they so desire.

7 posted on 08/03/2007 9:33:38 AM PDT by The Blitherer (What would a Free Man do?)
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These elite liberal hatriotics had better pray that Iraq doesn't become a rich and free standing nation. A rich and free Iraq might hire a lot of mercs to capture and bring these war criminals to trial in Iraq for War Crimes against innocent Iraqis.

8 posted on 08/03/2007 9:39:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Support Free Republic with donations, That is the conservative way. No Freeploading!)
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I disagree. Perception is more important that reality - even if the situation in Iraq improves dramatically, the perception that it is a Bush misadventure that has been handled ineptly is about as fixed as I have ever seen it.

GOPers seem unable to cope with this dynamic. Denial ain’t a river in Egypt. As a political matter, Iraq is all done even if it ends up working out.


10 posted on 08/03/2007 9:43:34 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("Lord, give me chastity and temperance, but not now." - St. Augustine)
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Stupid-AssCrats……………Lots of Baggage!
12 posted on 08/03/2007 9:45:20 AM PDT by knyteflyte3 (Freedom is not for FREE)
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Here's another problem:

Nancy Pelosi condemned the new record highs of the stock market as "just another example of Bush policies helping the rich get richer". "First Bush cut taxes for the rich and the economy has rebounded with new record low unemployment rates, which only means wealthy employers are getting even wealthier at the expense of the underpaid working class".

She went on to say "Despite the billions of dollars being spent in Iraq our economy is still strong and government tax revenues are at all time highs. What this really means is that business is exploiting the war effort and working Americans, just to put money in their own pockets".

When questioned about recent stock market highs she responded "Only the rich benefit from these record highs. Working Americans, welfare recipients, the unemp loyed and minorities are not sharing in these obscene record highs". "There is no question these windfall profits and income created by the Bush administration need to be taxed at 100% rate and those dollars redistributed to the poor and working class". "Profits from the stock market do not reward the hard work of our working class who, by their hard work, are responsible for generating these corporate profits that create stock market profits for the rich. We in congress will need to address this issue to either tax these profits or to control the stock market to prevent this unearned income to flow to the rich."

When asked about the fact that over 80% of all Americans have investments in mutual funds, retirement funds, 401K's, and the stock market she replied "That may be true, but probably only 5% account for 90% of all these investment dollars. That's just more "trickle down" economics claiming that if a corporation i s successful that everyone from the CEO to the floor sweeper benefit from higher wages and job security which is ridiculous". "How much of this 'trickle down' ever get to the unemployed and minorities in our county? None, and that's the tragedy of these stock market highs."

"We democrats are going to address this issue after the election when we take control of the congress.We will return to the 60% to 80% tax rates on the rich and we will be able to take at least 30% of all current lower Federal Income Tax tax payers off the roles and increase government income substantially. We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest."

When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied ; ; "We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long ways to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as "Americans"."

Democrat=Communist.

13 posted on 08/03/2007 9:46:29 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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It’s the dilemma of being in the opposition in wartime. By betting so much of their political capital on the issue, Reid and Pelosi have become invested in U.S. failure. A U.S. success would throw a wrench in their plans.

As the Russians say, "Tuffski Sh*tski".

20 posted on 08/03/2007 10:02:03 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks; KlueLass; LucyT; ..
Thanks for the ping Ernest.
...Reid and Pelosi lose if Bush wins. Given the position they have staked out for themselves, the best possible outcome is for Gen. David Petraeus to give a downbeat report on the surge when he comes before Congress in September. That would give tremendous momentum to those who want the quickest possible U.S. withdrawal from Iraq... By betting so much of their political capital on the issue, Reid and Pelosi have become invested in U.S. failure. A U.S. success would throw a wrench in their plans. That sounds harsh. But just read what Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) told The Washington Post... the Post continued, "there have been signs that the commander of U.S. forces might be preparing something more generally positive." And that, Clyburn told the paper, would be "a real big problem for us." ...[NY Senator Charles Schumer] predicted, some Republicans face "extinction" while Democrats pick up more seats. American success in Iraq could mess all of that up. It's a terrible position for Democrats to be in, one they could have avoided if they had given the surge time to succeed or fail. But they put all their chips on failure before it even began... even if the surge is working, war supporters can be rightly furious at Bush for not doing it years ago. But at least they aren't betting on -- haven't staked their hopes on -- American failure. Who would want to do that?

22 posted on 08/03/2007 10:12:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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bump


23 posted on 08/03/2007 10:14:05 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech." Hold a hearing on that.)
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mentioned above:

A War We Just Might Win
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1873493/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1873593/posts

discussion thereof:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1873818/posts

related:

Poll: American Support for War Inches Up
(Rats,”stop the surge, it’s working and we might win”)
nytimes | 7/23/2007 | Megan Thee
Posted on 07/23/2007 4:09:44 PM EDT by tobyhill
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1870400/posts

Now we Know why Kosovo War was ‘Just’ and Iraq Isn’t
Political Mavens | 16 May 2007 | Julia Gorin
Posted on 05/16/2007 9:21:21 AM EDT by radar101
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1834418/posts


25 posted on 08/03/2007 10:18:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Thursday, August 2, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Too much political correctness in this article. This goes to tell you that the D.C media, even those on our side, are so careful not to offend the democrats by calling them what they really are: TRAITORS.
28 posted on 08/03/2007 11:06:55 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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Who would want to do that?

The enemy within, the domestic enemy AND their enablers who prop them up.

37 posted on 08/03/2007 11:25:03 AM PDT by PGalt
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The donkey party frequently works toward US weakness and defeat - this began with Vietnam and has been most evident in the Carter-Mondale fraud, the Clintonistas, and the current Demagogues in Congress. Heaven forbid that anyone should ever question their judgment, never mind their patriotism...... no wonder they are always squealing and wailing at the least hint of criticism.

Most of them do sincerely believe that a “multi-lateral” world in which the USA plays a weaker role and has to depend much more heavily upon the UN, EU, Russia and China, Islamo-fascists, etc. is for the better. They admit this and even argue for it when they are together at party meetings, academic conferences, etc. George Soros epitomizes their mindset when he longs for the end of this “bubble of American supremacy” as he calls it.

Only problem for them is, in electoral terms, that is a massive loser if they are ever honest about it. A large majority of the US public would not willingly embrace US weakness.... so of course they try desperately to keep their real views out of the picture in electoral campaigns, etc. They are all dishonest frauds.


39 posted on 08/03/2007 11:34:31 AM PDT by Enchante (Reid and Pelosi Defeatocrats: Surrender Now - Peace for Our Time!!)
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There will be a gathering on Spetember 15.... My message will be "Traitorous Cowards Cut And Run" and as always....
42 posted on 08/03/2007 11:39:32 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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In total tonnage, Ted Kennedy is the Dims biggest problem.
45 posted on 08/03/2007 11:46:33 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (All our Washington Comedians.. politicians ? whatever!,say to Mexico: " Take my country....Please.")
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Dems’ 'Real Big Problem'

Not when the drive-bye's provide cover for them

47 posted on 08/03/2007 12:04:00 PM PDT by fulldeck
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