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Colorado Student Files Lawsuit Over Commencement Speech That Mentioned Jesus
Foxnews via AP ^ | 8/31/07 | Unknown

Posted on 08/31/2007 3:03:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

DENVER — A student who said she was told she wouldn't get her diploma unless she apologized for a commencement speech in which she mentioned Jesus has filed a lawsuit alleging her free speech rights were violated.

The school district contends its actions were "constitutionally appropriate."

Erica Corder was one of 15 valedictorians at Lewis-Palmer High School in 2006. All were invited to speak for 30 seconds at the graduation ceremony. When it was Corder's turn, she encouraged the audience to get to know Jesus Christ.

Corder had not included those remarks during rehearsals.

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The lawsuit said Brewer would not give Corder her diploma until she included a sentence saying, "I realize that, had I asked ahead of time, I would not have been allowed to say what I did."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: christianstudents; commencement; firstamendment; lawsuit; religion; speech
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To: Normal4me

Yes, as long as you use the Lord’s name in vain, it’s okay. For example “God” ins unacceptable unless followed by “damned” and then it is fine.


21 posted on 08/31/2007 3:29:37 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
What do they call this generation?

Generation Wussy?
22 posted on 08/31/2007 3:29:40 PM PDT by elizabetty (Was it Dolley Madison or Dolli Madison? First Ladies should not end their name with "I")
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To: elizabetty
I was referring to the generation that is afraid to let kids say the word “Jesus”
23 posted on 08/31/2007 3:31:02 PM PDT by elizabetty (Was it Dolley Madison or Dolli Madison? First Ladies should not end their name with "I")
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To: Graymatter

You find nothing wrong with it because you aren’t a Marxist teacher or principal dedicated to stamping out the one true religion.


24 posted on 08/31/2007 3:31:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Ha ha, my alma mater! Back in the day, there was only one valedictorian and God was mentioned in commencement addresses all the time. Funny thing is this is a very conservative community (very close to Colorado Springs).

Did they refuse to release her final transcript to her future college or just refuse to issue the piece of paper? One denies you a future livelihood, the other a commemoration of past events.


25 posted on 08/31/2007 3:32:56 PM PDT by keepitreal
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To: angkor
Now, when was it exactly that Congress - the legislative and lawmaking body of our government - passed a law prohibiting the mention of Jesus or Christianity from a valedectory podium?

You can't read the Constitution that literally. The prohibitions on government apply to all government branches at the federal and state & local levels.

26 posted on 08/31/2007 3:34:43 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“constitutionally appropriate.”

Wonder if the school district has a dollar they can look at.

‘In GOD We Trust’


27 posted on 08/31/2007 3:37:22 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: freekitty
Why doesn’t someone file a lawsuit on that dumb kid?

For what? Please cite a specific law she broke or tort she committed.

28 posted on 08/31/2007 3:37:29 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: keepitreal

In either case, here first amendment rights to free speech and freedom of religion were violated.


29 posted on 08/31/2007 3:45:22 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: colorado tanker
If you read her remarks, she went well beyond giving credit to Christ and her faith for her success, she was proselytizing, evangelizing. IMHO, that has no place in a public high school commencement address.

When it was Corder's turn, she encouraged the audience to get to know Jesus Christ.

I don't know if this was all the remarks she made about Christ, but do you really find this inappropiate? Name one thing about Jesus, The Christ, which is insulting? It amazes to me we have to have these discussion about Jesus because people are too ignorant to go look in the most published book ever to find out about what he stands for. If she ask people to get to know JFK, George Washington, or Mother Theresa would you have a problem with that? Why would any one have a problem about Jesus, when he is so much more righteous than any of these?

There is absolutely no law, nor any insult that prohibits people in any public setting from discussing or evangelizing about Jesus Christ, if you don't like it, leave.

30 posted on 08/31/2007 3:48:21 PM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Graymatter
I am concerned about the 15 valedictorians myself...

It just is not possible....

32 posted on 08/31/2007 3:53:18 PM PDT by alisasny (RIP Lt. Kevin “Kojak” Davis BLUE ANGELS #6 THANKYOU!!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

It’s OK to bombard people with the video games and MTV muesin “trivia” of “Reality TV” and all kinds of “fisting” sexual joke crap what not inuendos, “love the gays” etc... but Jesus is illegal...

Of course Jesus has to be illegal, He makes all those educators look too real, hmm... too retarted... it hurts MTV ratings, Union ratings and video game makers and their Unions too, so you know.

Selective offense is quite popular amongst distorted, brainwash, moron perverted lawyers, judges and juries too... unfortunately.

Society down the toilet... it were ok to have 12 kids when we were poor and sending them to coal mines, but now we have modernity, we don’t need that work force, we have abortions, kids sent down the toilet and euthanasia too.


33 posted on 08/31/2007 4:03:25 PM PDT by JudgemAll (control freaks, their world & their problem with my gun and my protecting my private party)
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To: BearCub
Well, you certainly have a sense of humor.
34 posted on 08/31/2007 4:08:59 PM PDT by freekitty (May the eagles long fly over our beautiful and free American sky.)
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To: sirchtruth
There is a difference between rights and doing what’s appropriate. Commencement is supposed to be an occasion to celebrate the achievements of the graduates, not a time for proselytizing. You should understand that by you’re remark that if she says anything someone doesn’t like, they can leave. Really? People only graduate once, and friends and relatives travel to join in the celebration. It’s not a time to be in someone’s face trying to persuade them to change their religion.
35 posted on 08/31/2007 4:10:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker (I'm unmoderated - just ask Bill O'Reilly)
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To: colorado tanker

BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE....

Sir, That you would take offense affirms the truth of scripture.


36 posted on 08/31/2007 4:11:02 PM PDT by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
15 valedictorians?
37 posted on 08/31/2007 4:15:10 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Blood of Tyrants

She did not violate any laws. Students are allowed to mention Jesus. What is not allowed is the School compelling speech about Jesus. She did no wrong and she deserves her diploma. Give it to her.


38 posted on 08/31/2007 4:23:24 PM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: colorado tanker
It’s not a time to be in someone’s face trying to persuade them to change their religion.

It's the perfect time. And it's not about getting in anyone's face so they will change their religion. Look, people who obviously do not know what Jesus is all about always talk about forcing "religion," and what they so ignorantly fail to realize is when Christian's speak about Jesus they are espousing precepts, good deeds, honest values, and most importantly the Truth Jesus stands for.

It's totally ignorantly arrogant of people to not want to know or hear about a person who actually lived a life that anyone in the right mind would be proud to emulate in society.

I challenge you to name another person in history who would be a better example and taught the good valued precepts of life better than Jesus.

That's why she encouraged people "to get to know Jesus" because know matter what "religion" you are, you can not deny the absolute authority of living a life and setting an example better than Jesus.

39 posted on 08/31/2007 4:41:28 PM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Graymatter

This Jew Boy thinks her speech was touching and inspirational and perfectly appropriate.


40 posted on 08/31/2007 4:48:09 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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