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1 posted on 09/28/2007 5:31:39 AM PDT by Red Badger
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To: xcamel

Ping!!!!


2 posted on 09/28/2007 5:31:59 AM PDT by Red Badger (ALL that CARBON in ALL that oil & coal was once in the atmosphere. We're just putting it back!)
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To: Red Badger

Someone left the freezer door open a crack.....


3 posted on 09/28/2007 5:36:18 AM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: Red Badger
The climate dynamic is much more complex than simply saying that CO2 rises and the temperature warms

This slice of the climate dynamic is actually rather simple. The temperature warms and then - roughly 800 years later - the CO2 rises.

4 posted on 09/28/2007 5:38:36 AM PDT by agere_contra
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5 posted on 09/28/2007 5:39:34 AM PDT by xcamel (FDT/2008)
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To: Red Badger
The best estimate from other studies of when CO2 began to rise is no earlier than 18,000 years ago. Yet this study shows that the deep sea, which reflects oceanic temperature trends, started warming about 19,000 years ago.

Bush's Fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6 posted on 09/28/2007 5:41:20 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: Red Badger

““I don’t want anyone to leave thinking that this is evidence that CO2 doesn’t affect climate,” Stott cautioned. “It does, but the important point is that CO2 is not the beginning and end of climate change.””

This isn’t anything particularly revolutionary - other particulates like methane, Milankovitch cycles and continental plate movement have all played roles in ice age models.

Unlike other conservatives here, I do believe that man-made carbon output is accelerating climate change. An increased greenhouse effect and a change in the Gulf Stream could very well bring an early-onset ice age. Of course, I’m open to all interpretations and scientific criticism. That’s the way science works. I just hate it when people dismiss man’s effect on climate with prima facia B.S..


7 posted on 09/28/2007 5:44:03 AM PDT by SomeReasonableDude (Back it up.)
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8 posted on 09/28/2007 6:04:18 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Red Badger
Gee...I thought the reason I didn’t see any woolly mammoths this morning was due to evil Republicans driving SUVs and having air conditioning.
11 posted on 09/28/2007 6:20:52 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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Ice Age Ends Smashingly: Did A Comet Blow Up Over Eastern Canada? (Carolina Bays)
15 posted on 09/28/2007 6:58:25 AM PDT by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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"But where did this energy come from" Evidence pointed southward. Water’s salinity and temperature are properties that can be used to trace its origin – and the warming deep water appeared to come from the Antarctic Ocean, the scientists wrote."

Which begs the question--where did the ENERGY come from?? There are only two sources of energy available---radioactive decay from isotopes (which, since they are a constantly decreasing fraction of the earth's mass, cannot contribute), and the sun. We already have evidence to account for changes in the photonic contribution of solar output to the prehistoric geological record (various isotopes from the solar wind)--so exactly how is this extra energy "coupled" into the earth from the sun???

My own thought is that there is an electromagnetic effect related the the sun's magnetic field. In current time, we have measurements showing that the sun's magnetic field has DOUBLED in historic time. How does that doubling effect the earth?? We KNOW from the laws of physics that ANY conductor moving in a magnetic field generates an electric current flow. The earth has LOTS of conductive systems (magma, the oceans--to pick what are probably the two largest), so there MUST be increased ohmic heating happening. How big is it?? Could THAT be the "missing link" in understanding what drives ice ages??

Lots of questions, but, thus far, I've been able to find ZERO answers. As far as I've been able to find out, this question has never been raised in the context of "global warming" so-called "science".

16 posted on 09/28/2007 7:11:56 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Red Badger
Basic References:

Lawrence Solomon's "The Deniers" (a series of articles on the view of scientists who have been labelled "Global Warming Deniers"):

Other References:

Antarctic Temperature Trend 1982-2004:


This map (left) shows key areas of Antarctica, including the vast East Antarctic ice sheet. The image on the right shows which areas of the continent's ice are thickening (coloured yellow and red) and thinning (coloured blue). © (Left)British Antarctic Survey, (Right)Science

22 posted on 09/28/2007 8:23:26 AM PDT by sourcery (Referring a "social conservative" to the Ninth Amendment is like showing the Cross to Dracula.)
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To: Red Badger

At first read, I don’t see this as very happy news - if CO2 accelerates and amplifies warming that starts from other causes we may have to cut CO2 even if the current warming was not largely caused by Co2.

I think the overall news is bad even there is a political advantage.


30 posted on 09/28/2007 5:58:14 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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To: Beowulf

PING !


34 posted on 09/28/2007 7:02:40 PM PDT by steelyourfaith
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Carbon dioxide did not cause the end of the last ice age...

Uh, oh. Algore kinda looks like an idiot at this point - no?

36 posted on 09/28/2007 9:03:12 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


37 posted on 09/29/2007 2:00:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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38 posted on 09/29/2007 2:00:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: 75thOVI; AFPhys; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aristotleman; Avoiding_Sulla; BenLurkin; Berosus; ...

neglected to ping the list, so here’s an additional link.

The Year the Global Warming Hoax Died
Canada Free Press | 9-03-07 | Alan Caruba
Posted on 09/03/2007 4:30:29 PM EDT by KarinG1
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/1890611/posts


39 posted on 09/29/2007 2:06:35 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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