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Romney Surges in S.C., Florida
Dry Fly Politics ^ | 10/23/07 | Steve

Posted on 10/24/2007 5:45:16 AM PDT by Reaganesque

Tuesday, October 23rd, 2007...8:57 am

Romney Surges in S.C., Florida

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In vastly underreported election news, recent polls are showing a Romney surge in both South Carolina and Florida. Of course no one knows this because no one has mentioned it. We would all think that Romney was flopping around like a fish out of water in the Southern states according to some recent posts that have been written about each state. Of course, logic would tell us that Romney should not be doing well in either of these states: He is Mormon, Slick, and a NorEaster. Nevertheless, he is polling well and will likely be right in the thick of the races come January. Here are the recent polls:

South Carolina

Oct 02, Insider Advantage Poll: Thompson 21%, Romney and Giuliani 16%

Sep 26-29, ARG Poll: Romney 26%, Giuliani 23%, Thompson 10%

Sep 26-27, Rasmussen: Thompson 24%, Giuliani 20%, Romney 15%

Additionally, the Romney campaign performed an internal poll, here are the results:

Romney Internal Poll: Thompson: 24%, Romney 20%, Giuliani 15%

So, in South Carolina Romney is right in the thick of the fight. It appears that the recent condemnation of Giuliani by Christian Right leaders is having a detrimental effect and that the advertising that Romney has been airing over the last month is causing some movement. However, it should be noted that the same article that reported the Romney internal poll caveats the results by saying that this was before the Bob Jones endorsement. A separat poll says that 27% of South Carolinans are more likely to support Romney due to this, but 32% are less likely. It will be interesting to see what effect the evangelical endorsements will have.

In Florida, Romney also continues to surge, and Florida is arguably more important a victory for any of the candidates. Here are the recent polls:

Oct 1-8, Quinnipiac: Giuliani: 27%, Thompson 19%, Romney 17%

Oct. 2, Insider Advantage: Giuliani 29%, Thompson 19%, Romney 16%

Granted, these polls are nothing to get thrilled over as Giuliani has a sizeable lead. However, all previous polling had Romney hovering between 7% and 10% in Florida. So a 6-7 point jump in a month is significant and he is really the only one gaining steam in these states, whereas Giuliani and Thompson are plateauing.

It should also be mentioned that all the hubub about Huckabee or Thompson surging against Romney in Iowa should be somewhat muted by the most recent Iowa poll that gave Romney an impressive 14 point lead:

Oct 10-14, Strategic Vision Poll: Romney-27, Giuliani-13, Huckabee-12, Thompson-10.

I wonder if this will get the coverage that the poll placing Huckabee within 6 points will get. I doubt it.

All in all, while Romney has stalled in some places, so have all the candidates. The race is a real crap shoot, there is far from a difinitive front runner. However, it still looks to be a Giuliani-Romney finale.



TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; electionpresident; elections; fl; romney; sc; surge
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To: PJ-Comix
But since I KNOW he isn't going to promote Mormonism as president, I support him because I think he is the best for the job.

And you know this how? I mean, normally, with a lot of candidates, you can point to their track record. With MR, you'd think you can say, "See, he didn't do it in Mass, he won't do it in the White House."

But every time you might point to this track record, well, now he believes something different. "See, his healthcare record in Mass was something overly intrusive in forcing all to get healthcare." "See, he did embrace homosexual rights in Mass." "See, he did promote Planned Parenthood in Mass." "See, he did talk up abortion rights as late as May, 2005...supposedly AFTER a pro-life conversion."

So don't just point to his gubernatorial track record...'cause he winds back & forth. And how easy is it, really, for a POTUS to less directly promote Mormonism while having others (namely the PR arm of the Church) do it for him?

161 posted on 10/26/2007 6:59:25 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: PJ-Comix
Right about now we are concluding that you are tiptoing thru the tulips growing out of your Mormon obsessed skull.

It seems to me some folks are too obsessed with promoting MR.

162 posted on 10/26/2007 7:00:59 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: PJ-Comix
Re: post #146...Try practicing proper protocol. If you mention a poster, then ping him or her in between paging thru Playmate posters (your reference to your familiarity with them in #144).

(Talk about going south)

163 posted on 10/26/2007 7:04:21 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Elsie

Any attempt to involve FR forums in a squabble over LDS doctrine is an embarrassment. The moderate should step in and give a stern warning to those participating before this goes any further.


164 posted on 10/26/2007 7:10:51 AM PDT by mission9 (Be a citizen worth living for, in a Nation worth dying for...)
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To: JRochelle

It seems that the entire Trinity Broadcasting bunch is of that ilk. Money grubbers to a person. They all seem to be associated with the Assembly of God.


165 posted on 10/26/2007 7:26:21 AM PDT by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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To: Old Mountain man
TBN is nothing but a den of hypocrites.
166 posted on 10/26/2007 7:41:48 AM PDT by JRochelle (Rudy employs a pedophile, Alan Placa.)
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To: Grig

“Mitt was given that chance to get a good education, his grades and everything after that he earned on his own, and his accomplishments do outstrip the accomplishments you claim.”

Posh, Mitt is a privileged boy from a privileged Mormon family. Can you imagine how bigoted the Mormons in Utah were - they could only use another Mormon from out of state to save their Olympics (talk about religious discrimination!).

And You don’t know “his accomplishments do outstrip the accomplishments you claim”, considering the things I’ve gone through, I suspect even you would put me on an equal plain - and the best is yet to come since I’m not yet Romney’s age. But, when you have to promote a man as God (so your whole worldview doesn’t collapse), then I can see how you might believe that no one in the universe could be as pure as Mitt nor his equal. And that is exactly my problem with you guys, you appear to be into some kind of Sun God worship, so you are proving my point.

“The point is that your kook smear that he is somehow mentally unbalanced flies in the face of the facts, nor is there any evidence to support your claim that he has some kind of ego problem.”

No evidence that he has an ego problem? Bwahahaha. Mitt Romney is ego on steroids, his whole campaign is about him being the “Chosen One”. I guess the kooks on your side can continue to worship your Sun God all you want.

“With your obsessive crusade to demonize all Mormons and ensure none of us make it to the White House, I see more reason to question how mentally balanced you are then Mitt.”

I’m only demonizing Joseph Smith, the charlatan False Prophet/bank fraud/tinpot general/ seccessionist/ wannabe God/ philanderer who had an ego bigger than the Hindenburg and quite possibly is burning in hell for it right now. Do you have any idea how stupid it is to believe that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon by looking through a peep stone into his hat?

If you believe that, then you must believe my Prophecy that I just looked through the bottom of a magic coke bottle and saw that Romney is going to lose.


167 posted on 10/26/2007 8:47:10 AM PDT by FastCoyote
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To: mission9; Elsie
Any attempt to involve FR forums in a squabble over LDS doctrine is an embarrassment. The moderate should step in and give a stern warning to those participating before this goes any further.

Elsie, I know you need a good translation, here:

"You be a good boy (or dude), Elsie. If you keep barking up the wrong tree--even if you think it's the right one--we'll have to put a muzzle on you. It's OK for us to squabble with and about the squabblers; it's OK for us to 'participate' by 'ruling' over you with proper indoctrination (you know, that other-worldly commitments on the part of candidates is taboo)...but for you to embarrass yourself is just embarrassing...and we won't stop hyperventilating until you stop."

168 posted on 10/26/2007 8:54:05 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: FastCoyote; Grig
But, when you have to promote a man as God (so your whole worldview doesn’t collapse), then I can see how you might believe that no one in the universe could be as pure as Mitt nor his equal.

Quite pointed & on the mark. (Good discernment of unconscience motivations)

169 posted on 10/26/2007 8:57:59 AM PDT by Colofornian
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To: colorcountry

It is too bad your heart has become so hard that you have chosen the wide gate.


170 posted on 10/26/2007 9:11:26 AM PDT by ComeUpHigher
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To: Recovering_Democrat
We had high hopes for Thompson as well.
However, I have been so disappointed in him. Hence, I sent Mitt $150.00 I will say, I am a ABH voter
(anyone but Hillary)
171 posted on 10/26/2007 9:15:27 AM PDT by Nav_Mom
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To: ComeUpHigher

It’s too bad you claim to know my heart. Didn’t Jesus warn you about that?


172 posted on 10/26/2007 9:18:35 AM PDT by colorcountry (Mitt Romney - Cheating within the rules.....)
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To: colorcountry

Your posts speaks volumes. As Christ said, By their fruits ye shall know them.


173 posted on 10/26/2007 9:21:55 AM PDT by ComeUpHigher
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To: ComeUpHigher

Many people who are Christian can see Christian motivations in my post...too bad you can’t.

My posts speak against the evil heresies found within Mormonism. I absolutly will not apologize.

Here’s a site that will make your blood boil. Maybe you can sue them for being “haters.” I’m sure you can discern the fruit of this site.... : D

http://exposeromney.com/images/Header_Romney_Truth.gif


174 posted on 10/26/2007 9:26:44 AM PDT by colorcountry (Mitt Romney - Cheating within the rules.....)
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To: colorcountry; Spiff

some buddy put a catcus in your civvies skivvies!

LOL


175 posted on 10/26/2007 9:26:48 AM PDT by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by...PRESS FORWARD MITT!)
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To: restornu

You got your garmies is a bunch? ,-)


176 posted on 10/26/2007 9:27:50 AM PDT by colorcountry (Mitt Romney - Cheating within the rules.....)
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To: colorcountry
Please show me the verifiable link that shows that over 47% of Americans will not vote for Romney ONLY because of his religion.

Until then? Apples=apples.

177 posted on 10/26/2007 9:30:18 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult)
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To: Hi Heels

I never said that.

Nice to see you again ex-mormon. LOL THAT’s a laugh!


178 posted on 10/26/2007 9:33:33 AM PDT by colorcountry (Mitt Romney - Cheating within the rules.....)
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To: Hi Heels

Okay, you asked for it, polls showing percentage of people who will not vote for a Mormon (and I NEVER said 47% - you are mistaken):

USA Today

Rasmussen Reports

Are Americans Ready for a Mormon President?

Poll Examines Beliefs About Mormonism

Would you like some more, or can you google it by yourself? ( grin)


179 posted on 10/26/2007 9:38:56 AM PDT by colorcountry (Mitt Romney - Cheating within the rules.....)
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To: colorcountry

They fit very comfortably!:)


180 posted on 10/26/2007 9:39:16 AM PDT by restornu (Improve The Shining Moment! Don't let them pass you by...PRESS FORWARD MITT!)
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