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Try a Little Tenderness (Noonan on Obama)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 22 Feb 08 | Peggy Noonan

Posted on 02/22/2008 8:58:10 AM PST by Robbin

His problem was, is, his wife's words, not his, the speech in which she said that for the first time in her adult life she is proud of her country, because Obama is winning. She later repeated it, then tried to explain it, saying of course she loves her country. But damage was done. Why? Because her statement focused attention on what I suspect are some basic and elementary questions that were starting to bubble out there anyway.

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Here are a few of them.

Are the Obamas, at bottom, snobs? Do they understand America? Are they of it? Did anyone at their Ivy League universities school them in why one should love America? Do they confuse patriotism with nationalism, or nativism? Are they more inspired by abstractions like "international justice" than by old visions of America as the city on a hill, which is how John Winthrop saw it, and Ronald Reagan and JFK spoke of it?

Have they been, throughout their adulthood, so pampered and praised--so raised in the liberal cocoon--that they are essentially unaware of what and how normal Americans think? And are they, in this, like those cosseted yuppies, the Clintons?

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To: y6162

Does this include Clarence Thomas?


21 posted on 02/22/2008 9:32:48 AM PST by Shade2
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To: BackInBlack

There are many individuals out there who tend to attribute any success by a black person to affirmative action.


22 posted on 02/22/2008 9:34:48 AM PST by Shade2
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To: freespirited
Or was it more like one door after another opening before her eyes?

Maybe that made her ashamed of the country because it seemed so patronizing, so condescending...

23 posted on 02/22/2008 9:34:49 AM PST by Migraine (...diversity is great... until it happens to YOU...)
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To: BackInBlack
Part of the argument is that blacks like the Obama's are given a pass and treated as brilliant within the liberal cocoon, even if they are not. Many white liberals get the same pass, mouthing stupid cliches while being praised as gods among men.

The Obama's are both obviously quite bright and very articulate (a trait sorely lacking in most politicians of any ethnicity these days). But I would not say they are "brilliant," because "brilliance" requires some knowledge of the real truth and not just the ability to speak the same old cliches more dramatically.

24 posted on 02/22/2008 9:35:12 AM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: Shade2

Precisely my point.


25 posted on 02/22/2008 9:35:35 AM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: Robbin
Thank you Robbin - I'll agree, this is one of Noonan's best.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

26 posted on 02/22/2008 9:35:54 AM PST by expatguy ("An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - New & Improved - Now with Search)
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To: gleeaikin

Obama’s upbringing was different from Bill Clintons. Obama was raised by his maternal grandparents in Hawaii. So, in effect, he had a much more traditional upbringing. Obama’s mother stayed in Indonesia (w/her second husband and their daughter) and sent Obama to live with and be raised by her parents.


27 posted on 02/22/2008 9:38:49 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom (Michelle Obama: this seasons Teresa Heinz.)
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To: nutmeg; YaYa123

Great read.


28 posted on 02/22/2008 9:39:42 AM PST by StarFan
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To: Robbin
So many Americans right now fear they are losing their country, that the old America is slipping away and being replaced by something worse, something formless and hollowed out. They can see we are giving up our sovereignty, that our leaders will not control our borders, that we don't teach the young the old-fashioned love of America, that the government has taken to itself such power, and made things so complex, and at the end of the day when they count up sales tax, property tax, state tax, federal tax they are paying a lot of money to lose the place they loved.

Apparently, not enough Americans feel this way, judging by the choices we keep getting for President.

29 posted on 02/22/2008 9:40:56 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Shade2

“Does this include Clarence Thomas?”

Interestingly, Clarence Thomas was vilified for rejecting Affirmative Action as debilitating for Afro Americans. As W said so well, “...the soft bigotry of low expectations.”


30 posted on 02/22/2008 9:41:04 AM PST by y6162 (b)
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To: Robbin

bump


31 posted on 02/22/2008 9:42:11 AM PST by Freee-dame
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To: Robbin

When Obama talks about the sacrifices of the troops — he has no idea, he is clueless.

Moreover, he scorns the military by his “I know better than all the military leaders what to do militarily in Iraq.”

She’s not the only snob in the family.


32 posted on 02/22/2008 9:46:19 AM PST by detch
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To: y6162

Despite what he rejected afterward his reached his high status, you have just as much reason to accuse him of being a product of affirmative action. So does he belong on the Supreme Court or not?


33 posted on 02/22/2008 9:47:05 AM PST by Shade2
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To: pierrem15

If you are insisting that one can only be brilliant if he or she agrees with you, that’s obviously a silly argument. Heck, Karl Marx was brilliant; Proudhon was brilliant; Comte was brilliant. Heck, Bill Clinton was probably one of the naturally smartest guys to hold the presidency. That doesn’t mean they were right.

Obama is an exceptional writer, a gifted speaker, and displays an unusual amount of self-knowledge. Call it brilliant or not, but crying affirmative action is ridiculous. Obama should be opposed not because every black liberal is somehow by definition an AA baby, but because his liberal policies will lead to increased dependence on government, a perpetuation of the abortion holocaust, and a weak foreign policy.


34 posted on 02/22/2008 9:47:27 AM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: Robbin
Michelle Obama's statment was racist, pure and simple. She is proud of America only because they finally are swooning over a 'black' presidential candidate.

Peggy Noonan asks if the Obamas are snobs. Well, I know that some folks call people like Michelle Obama 'uppity'. She and Barack have not risen from the roots of racism and poverty. They're both from privileged backgrounds.

Where was she when Clarence Thomas had the fight of his life after being nominated to the Supreme Court? Was she part of that America? The one made up of liberals just like her husband --- that to this day consider him a lesser being or Uncle Tom?

35 posted on 02/22/2008 9:49:54 AM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom; All

So Obama grew up in the tropics and Bill grew up in the south. I don’t know where the wives grew up, but frankly I don’t think anyone who has not experienced northern winters on a limited budget knows what real life is like.


36 posted on 02/22/2008 9:50:34 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: Shade2

He sure does belong on the Supreme Court and he would have made it there despite Affirmative Action, not because of it.

Read he biography. It’s illuminating.

I reject the basis of your argument.


37 posted on 02/22/2008 9:51:41 AM PST by y6162 (b)
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To: y6162
They are products of the Affirmative Action Entitlement Syndrome.

Yes, you nailed it.

This is Peggy's best column in a while. Michelle Obama's comment points out something that disturbs people. Do you remember Amarosa from the first season of The Apprentice? Something about Michelle Obama reminds me of her. This is going to be an issue in the campaign, even though people don't want to touch it now.

38 posted on 02/22/2008 9:52:22 AM PST by ishmac
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To: Shade2; y6162

Thomas is a decent justice, but he’s not a first-class mind like Scalia. He obviously was chosen by Bush because the retiree was Thurgood Marshall.

Condoleeza Rice, on the other hand, seems sharp as a tack, and deserves her position regardless of race.

In other words, a successful black person, whether liberal or conservative, does not automatically owe everything to affirmative action. That’s one of the most sickening parts of affirmative action — the negative assumption it fosters about successful blacks. But people can still choose to overcome this bigoted assumption and judge people on their own merits.


39 posted on 02/22/2008 9:53:32 AM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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To: ishmac

As I asked the author of the post you quoted approvingly, what suggests that Barack Obama is a product of affirmative action? He’s an unusually talented guy. We should oppose him because he’s a liberal, not because any successful black liberal should be assumed to owe everything to AA.


40 posted on 02/22/2008 9:55:07 AM PST by BackInBlack ("The act of defending any of the cardinal virtues has today all the exhilaration of a vice.")
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