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Thousands rally in Sydney against Kosovo independence
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/03/08/2184173.htm?section=justin ^

Posted on 03/08/2008 1:43:49 PM PST by kronos77

Several thousands members of Sydney's Serbian community have rallied in the city this afternoon calling on the Federal Government to reverse its decision to recognise Kosovo as an independent state.

The protesters marched from Martin Place to the Federal Government offices in Sydney this afternoon.

They carried signs saying "Kosovo is Serbia" and the "United Nations is dead".

They are angry the Australian Government recognised Kosovo's declaration of independence last month.

The protesters, who were mostly members of the Serbian community, are calling on the Federal Government to reverse its decision to recognise Kosovo as an independent state.

They say Kosovo's declaration breaches international law and have called for an apology.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; clintonswar; islam; kosovo; serbia
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To: Kolokotronis

If you really believe the US is fighting on the side of islamic jihad then why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and join our enemies and fight us? Get out of evil America and go where your real allegiance lies. You don’t sound any different than a moveon.org commie or a code pinko to me. You bitch and moan about how evil America is, but for some reason you choose to stay here in the greatest and most prosperous country in the world.


21 posted on 03/08/2008 4:12:34 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: MinorityRepublican

Many Serbs and Croats have lived in Australia for some time now. I have several cousins (2nd generation Aussies) in Sydney and its surrounding suburbs. You probably never knew because they haven’t tried to carve up the country and make one of their own.


22 posted on 03/08/2008 4:14:43 PM PST by Serb29 ("A nation that expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be")
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To: B Knotts
"Can you explain the bottom line, if you know, of why the U.S. got involved in this in the first place, and why we’ve aligned with the Kosovars/Bosnians/Albanians?"

I don't KNOW. I do know what the speculation in the Balkans and a couple of places in the Levant is. Clinton, all the wag the dog stuff aside, which, by the way, people out there believe was his true motivation, simply didn't view the Serbs as Western or Christian in any sense he understood. Albright, Holbrooke and that pathetic sissy Nicky Burns all hate Orthodoxy, probably because they view it as Russian. All of them felt close to and trusted the Turks and the Turks wanted their old brothers in Kosovo taken care of. Remember that the whole Mohammedan Bosnian, Kosovo and Albanian problem is a remnant of the Ottoman empire. The belief with Bush is that he is simply a new world order globalist bought and paid for with Saudi oil money. The success of the new world order depends on the Saudis playing ball about oil. The Saudis exact a price, the expansion of Wahabism, for their cooperation. The globalists like Bush couldn't care less if Islam, which to them is represented by the nice Paki or Persian doctor they know, expands in the Balkans. In fact, if Christians get in the way anywhere, they will be dealt with permanently. Nothing to worry about there because the sort of Christian you are talking about isn't the sort your evangelical supporters recognize anyway. I'm not saying this is correct. It is what one hears even in government ministries over there though.

23 posted on 03/08/2008 4:15:02 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: B Knotts

Bush lied, people died! Blood for oil! Blood for oil!


24 posted on 03/08/2008 4:17:05 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

If you really believe that the US didn’t side w/ Islam on this one, please explain why they sat there as all those churches were razed and replaced by mosques.

“It is the duty of a citizen not only to observe the law but to let it be known that he is opposed to its violation.” - Calvin Coolidge


25 posted on 03/08/2008 4:21:17 PM PST by Serb29 ("A nation that expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“You don’t sound any different than a moveon.org commie or a code pinko to me.”

Funny, TGJ, I was just sitting here wondering whether you sounded more like a Nazi or a Stalinist. Tell us, which of these tunes is more catchy for you?

http://tinyurl.com/69hyd

or

http://tinyurl.com/3ab6fs


26 posted on 03/08/2008 4:21:40 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

http://www.mostfreebies.com/Music/BattleHymnOfTheRepublic.mp3


27 posted on 03/08/2008 4:42:10 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
TGJ...you didn't answer my question! I'm surprised and even a bit disappointed. By the way in that Mohammedan New World Order your Leader is creating, the Battle Hymn of the Republic will be banned on penalty of death; Sharia law you know.

BTW, my great great grandfather was a brigadier general on the winning side in the Civil War. Yours?

28 posted on 03/08/2008 4:47:46 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Kolokotronis

Americans don’t fight for foreign agendas. We fight for each other.


TG—I used to think that but no longer sad to say.

We are fighting to keep Saudi/OPEC oil flowing and we are fighting so that the amoral/secular corporations can maintain their power across the world. We are fighting within NATO and we are fighting for the UN...none of these above “for each other”.

Even with all our fighting for others and fighting on the wrong side, the American people are losing.


29 posted on 03/08/2008 5:03:38 PM PST by eleni121 (Solzhenitsyn on the bombing of Serbia: "no difference whatsoever between NATO and the Nazis")
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To: Kolokotronis

That sounds plausible. I remember that George H.W. Bush was chummy with Turgut Özal, and being familiar with the ties between the Albanians and the Turks, I figured that had to be at least part of the reason we were taking sides.

I have always thought that the collapse of the Soviet Union offered an opportunity, since squandered by both sides, to recognize common interests. Our Balkan escapades and Chechnyan interference, combined with Russian intransigence on Saddam, have divided what should have been a partnership against Islamic terror.


30 posted on 03/08/2008 5:04:35 PM PST by B Knotts (Calvin Coolidge Republican)
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To: B Knotts

“I have always thought that the collapse of the Soviet Union offered an opportunity, since squandered by both sides, to recognize common interests. Our Balkan escapades and Chechnyan interference, combined with Russian intransigence on Saddam, have divided what should have been a partnership against Islamic terror.”

I agree. I think that some Cold War mentality on both sides persisted and our actions during the time the old USSR was coming apart created some resentments which are now coming to full bloom under Putin. It was a real missed opportunity but in the end, I think that Saudi oil had a lot to do with what we were doing, or not doing, as the case may be.


31 posted on 03/08/2008 5:09:02 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
Bush Proclaims 'National Days of Prayer and Remembrance' - We are grateful for those who continue to protect our nation and our way of life. Their courage, sacrifice, and dedication help preserve our freedom. We pray for their safety, for all those who love them, and for the peace we all seek. During these days of prayer and remembrance, we reflect on all we have lost and take comfort in each other and in the grace and mercy of our Creator. May God guide us, give us strength and wisdom, and may He continue to bless our great country.
32 posted on 03/08/2008 5:19:13 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Dante3; Kolokotronis
This was payback - sacrifice the Orthodox Christians - to the Saudis for the independence of East Timor, a Catholic Christian country which fought for years against muslim dominated Indonesia...any other way to explain it? I'm listening. Bush was waivering (possibly) took his trip to Saudi Arabia (and others to Turkey-—Turkey invaded Iraq remember?—then pulled back after the official announcement) where he was told in no uncertain terms what the Caliphate wanted, and then BINGO he proclaims the bad news.

It was planned this way.

Anyone else have any theories?

33 posted on 03/08/2008 5:24:16 PM PST by eleni121 (Solzhenitsyn on the bombing of Serbia: "no difference whatsoever between NATO and the Nazis")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

From the site of the US Consulate in Jeddah:

“Washington — Ahead of hosting an iftar celebration at the White House, President Bush said the Islamic religion “is a great religion that preaches peace,” and that Americans are free “to worship any way they see fit.” Bush spoke October 4 with Al Arabiya television and answered questions concerning the War on Terror and the freedom of religion in the United States. Muslim extremists have “done a good job of propagandizing” the idea that Americans do not like the Islamic faith, Bush said, stating his own belief that the global community, regardless of individual faiths, “prays to the same God.”The president later hosted an iftar event at the White House, celebrating the daily breaking of the fast observed by Muslims during the month of Ramadan.”

Kinda gives me a warm fuzzy feeling; makes me real proud too!


34 posted on 03/08/2008 5:28:25 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis
"There is no doubt in my mind there is a living God. And no doubt in my mind that Lord, Christ, was sent by the Almighty. No doubt in my mind about that." - President George W. Bush
35 posted on 03/08/2008 5:29:38 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“”There is no doubt in my mind there is a living God. And no doubt in my mind that Lord, Christ, was sent by the Almighty. No doubt in my mind about that.”

That’s sort of inconsistent with financing the killing of Orthodox Christians and the destruction of their churches, wouldn’t you say? I mean he espouses a universalist heresy to Mohammedans and then pays them hundreds of millions which they use to kill Orthodox Christians. He has paid $500,000,000.00 over to Fatah. You know who Fatah is, TGJ, I’m sure.

Now there are those who claim to be Christians who want Orthodox Christians dead, at a minimum out of the way and hate the Jews. I don’t think Bush is really either one, though his very WASP background might lead one to think that. No, I don’t think he believes in much of anything except the globalist new world order. Sadly, for most of us that will mean dhimmitude to Islam.


36 posted on 03/08/2008 5:40:54 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Kolokotronis

Just remember, keep the shiny side facing outward on your tin-foil hat, m’kay?


37 posted on 03/08/2008 5:43:35 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Jesus is my political philosopher” Bush

An obviously Masonic-inspired comment by Bush influenced by Masonic thought who would dare call God a “political philosopher”.


38 posted on 03/08/2008 5:48:15 PM PST by eleni121 (Solzhenitsyn on the bombing of Serbia: "no difference whatsoever between NATO and the Nazis")
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To: Tailgunner Joe

“Just remember, keep the shiny side facing outward on your tin-foil hat, m’kay?”

Oh, TGJ, I expected better from you. There are people on these threads, well, there used to be, from whom I’d expect that, but you!?

I’ll try to keep your advice in mind and if you find the time, try to learn just a little bit about how the world goes round and what people in other places are thinking even if you think they are wrong. People, even whole countries, tend to create their own realities sometimes and those realities have consequences to the way we live.


39 posted on 03/08/2008 6:04:00 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: MinorityRepublican
I’m surprised that there’s that many Serbs in Australia. I’ve heard that Australia has a strict immigration policy and its difficult to move there legally.

The order of declared ancestry of Sustralian in the Census (from 500,000 down to about 250,000) is:

Greek
Dutch
Lebanese
Indian
Vietnamese
Polish
Maltese
Filipino
New Zealander
Croatian
Serbian
But groups seem to have different ability to be noticed.

From reports of crime, violence, antisocial behaviour it.s difficult to believe that there are any Dutch, Indian, Polish, Maltese, Filipino in Australia at all.

40 posted on 03/08/2008 6:46:38 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Never say yer sorry, mister. It's a sign of weakness)
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