Posted on 03/21/2008 7:53:24 AM PDT by kellynla
Loud and raucous it was, but no hate anywhere.
But don't you dare stand there with your mouth shut while they're singing!
They all share the same basic belief that America is a retrograde force in the world, that national sovereignty needs to be done away with, that gay relationships should be celebrated, that there needs to be massive global wealth redistribution mediated by international political bodies, and that the gospel should be understood through the lens of progressive politics.
These beliefs are not always carried by churches on the local level, but at the highest levels the views must be acceptable to the National Council of Churches and the World Council of Churches, which are made up entirely of dedicated socialists.
I have a dear friend who is a conservative Catholic. He’s married to a woman, a nice woman who does take pretty good care of him (he’s 77 - she’s about 60) who convinced him to move to Portland Oregon. He calls me on or about religious holidays. I do remember him telling me that he took his wife with him to Good Friday services. She was raised Jewish but is not religious and is pretty liberal. He said she was totally shocked at the Gospel, the Passion. After that she would never go back. Why? Because part of the narative is that the Jews crucified Jesus. I went to a pretty liberal parish to listen to Matthew’s Passion last Sunday. I checked and the Bishops had approved the translation and now it says “the whole people” instead of “the Jews.” I haven’t decided how I feel about that. But its an example of someone reacting to what she hears in Church. Sorry, I’m babbling.
There are extremely few blacks condemning this garbage.
The usual stalwarts we would expect to but as to the rest more moderate blacks (if there are any) silence.
Listen to conservative talk radio.....black callers in support of this stuff are on all day.
This is a problem far larger than just Obama’s racism.
And this is the first time I’ve seen it exposed to sunlight.
I have been living the ramifications of this hatred that I first became aware of since maybe 1980. Before that it was just a flicker at times.
There is no reason to give a pass for such ill behavior to folks simply based on their race.
I have a hard time understanding why anyone would expose their kids to that kind of hatefullness.
She's 60 and said she was shocked by this? What a maroon.
“I went to a pretty liberal parish to listen to Matthew’s Passion last Sunday. I checked and the Bishops had approved the translation and now it says “the whole people” instead of “the Jews.” I haven’t decided how I feel about that.”
I wouldn’t let PC keep you from continuing to practice our faith.
Happy Easter!
A “Cradle Catholic” LOL
Kelly
I agree that a large part of the black population believes in black separatism including many crazy conspiracy theories. The OJ trial was the awakening about attitudes among a large majority of blacks. BHO is reflecting the mainstream belief among blacks. At the heart of black separatism is a strong desire for racial preferences and reparations. If the rats gain firm control in 2009, reparations will be on the table. Racial preferences will become even more prominent.
“I have a hard time understanding why anyone would expose their kids to that kind of hatefullness.”
Because you’re not a racist and Obama is.
The anser is obvious. Obama does not leave the Trinity Church for one simple reason. Despite his new found disgust in "some" terminology Wright has employed, Obama has bought into and agreess with the theology that the church teaches. He is raising his kids in it.
Most of us feel the same about the christian churches we attend. If they depart from the theology that we accept in our hearts, we leave them and find a congregation and doctrine that we subscribe to and will make better men and women of us (through the atonement of Jesus Christ) and allow us to help others.
The Black Liberation theology subscribed to by Trinity is what Obama subscribes to. He's been going and donating to it for twenty yerars. That theology, is the admitted theology of Reverend Wright and the congregation. Wright admits that he preaches his brand of that theology based, in part, on the works of one James Cone...who describes that theology as follows:
""Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.""
Sounds like a form of Jihad to me.
That theology accepts a perverted and wrested interpretation of Jesus Christ because it describes him as a poor black man (or man of color) living under oppressive white European rule (the Romans) and that he was as much about social change as he was spiritual. He therefore meets their criteria for a God who supports their black power insurgency against what they describe as the ruling rich white men and women in America.
They have perverted the love, peace, forgiveness, and inner focus (spiritual focus) of Christ and His atonement which teaches us that we change within, and when we are healed spiritually, then the outter man follows... and they have turned turned him into a social radical, hell bent on political and social change at any cost who supports their hate and "revenge" to suit their needs.
This is the message about Obama and his "church" that needs to be spread. I do not believe it is at all subscribed to by most blacks, and certainly not by society at large. But it has been hidden and flying under the radar in these churches and for political correctness purposes has been heretofore untouchable. But now the cat is out of the bag.
It is shocking, is is disgusting...and it is dangerous.
This same type of liberation theology has been used for decades in Latin America to pervert Catholics and goad them into rising into Marxist rebellions in class warfare. That is what this is...and it is the version accepted and practised by black radicals in this country and it is intent on changing this country into a socio-marxist state where wealth, opportunity, and position opr not earned by individuals, but instead are handed out by the state...and in this case they simply want to be the ones redistributing it all.
Pastor Wright may be a practicing christian, (small c), but he ain't! Why? Because all his practicin' has been for nought, given his unforgiving behavior!
Someone had to do it! Imagine the effect it would have had on the prophesies of the Old Testament if Jesus had been welcomed with open arms by the Jewish leaders and population!
Same goes for Judas and his betrayal of Jesus. Sounds terrible in retrospect, 2,000 years later, but it was God's will and it fulfilled the prophecy of a thousand years before that.
Even if you don't believe in God or the Bible or the “Good News” of the Gospel, you still have to acknowledge it was the Jews who were responsible for Christ's death on the cross. Therapists make a living out of dealing with people who are bothered by facts.
mark
We had a rude awakening here in L.A with the 1992 riots after the Rodney King verdict.
I have no problem with the facts - just saying that we have choices in this society and Obama made the choice to stay and that to me means he wasn’t bothered by what Wright was saying.
Post of the day! Thank you.
Apart from that there's a reference to "the children of Israel" in 27.9.
Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution--Pilate, the Roman governor, had to give the order for it to be inflicted on Jesus.
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