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To: kellynla

I have a dear friend who is a conservative Catholic. He’s married to a woman, a nice woman who does take pretty good care of him (he’s 77 - she’s about 60) who convinced him to move to Portland Oregon. He calls me on or about religious holidays. I do remember him telling me that he took his wife with him to Good Friday services. She was raised Jewish but is not religious and is pretty liberal. He said she was totally shocked at the Gospel, the Passion. After that she would never go back. Why? Because part of the narative is that the Jews crucified Jesus. I went to a pretty liberal parish to listen to Matthew’s Passion last Sunday. I checked and the Bishops had approved the translation and now it says “the whole people” instead of “the Jews.” I haven’t decided how I feel about that. But its an example of someone reacting to what she hears in Church. Sorry, I’m babbling.


6 posted on 03/21/2008 8:37:49 AM PDT by Mercat (If anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight rein on his tongue)
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To: Mercat
She was raised Jewish but is not religious and is pretty liberal. He said she was totally shocked at the Gospel, the Passion. After that she would never go back. Why? Because part of the narative is that the Jews crucified Jesus.

She's 60 and said she was shocked by this? What a maroon.

9 posted on 03/21/2008 8:55:14 AM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Mercat

“I went to a pretty liberal parish to listen to Matthew’s Passion last Sunday. I checked and the Bishops had approved the translation and now it says “the whole people” instead of “the Jews.” I haven’t decided how I feel about that.”

I wouldn’t let PC keep you from continuing to practice our faith.

Happy Easter!

A “Cradle Catholic” LOL
Kelly


10 posted on 03/21/2008 9:17:47 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: Mercat
re: Because part of the narrative is that the Jews crucified Jesus

Someone had to do it! Imagine the effect it would have had on the prophesies of the Old Testament if Jesus had been welcomed with open arms by the Jewish leaders and population!

Same goes for Judas and his betrayal of Jesus. Sounds terrible in retrospect, 2,000 years later, but it was God's will and it fulfilled the prophecy of a thousand years before that.

Even if you don't believe in God or the Bible or the “Good News” of the Gospel, you still have to acknowledge it was the Jews who were responsible for Christ's death on the cross. Therapists make a living out of dealing with people who are bothered by facts.

15 posted on 03/21/2008 9:21:58 AM PDT by jwparkerjr (Sigh . . .)
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To: Mercat
In St. Matthew's account of the passion, from the arrest of Jesus in the garden till his death on the cross, the word "Jews" occurs only three times--when Pilate asks Jesus "Are you the king of the Jews?" (27.11), when the Roman soldiers mock Jesus, saying, "Hail, king of the Jews" (27.30), and in the inscription on the cross ("this is Jesus, the king of the Jews": 27.37).

Apart from that there's a reference to "the children of Israel" in 27.9.

Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution--Pilate, the Roman governor, had to give the order for it to be inflicted on Jesus.

20 posted on 03/21/2008 9:47:28 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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