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To: buwaya

Hey dude, when is enough enough for you?
Ew man, bashing Greeks like that, saying that Serbs are “tribal nation” is quite a logical nonsence – nation and tribe are quite different terms in the matter of society form. It just shows you don`t know the basic terms in history of society. You are also projecting about this one – tell us please from which tribe are you? Can you tell me what can we thank your tribe for cultural, scientific, artistic achievement for world civilization or you are as Europeans say from the country that we can only hear of during Olympics opening? Without one particular Serb you`d be using candlelight now.

“The US should ban Greek immigration and declare the lot of them enemies of the people.”
You have some serious problems man.

Jesus, even the name of your country is not of native language but named after spanish king. Dealing with the topic that you have no knowledge of just to show off and make you feel important by bashing oldest nations in Europe, your obsessive need to reply on every post without understanding it, repeating like a parrot same old stupid sentencies that no valid argument sent as reply can lead to the truth, using terms like tribe, communists etc. in same sentence with Serbs as way to describe them,well, that`s funny somehow.

“the majority in that region (Kosovo) was Albanian for centuries”
” these people were the majority in Kosovo since the sixteenth century”
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zzzzzz
Really, if you read all the links I posted you`d see otherwise, but you only choose to read partialy, the parts that could serve you in future for repeating and repeating like posdessed. I never wrote “they were majority” from XVI cent. but that they were always USING forein invaders to get what they wanted – more and more land, coming from Albania SERBIAN LAND OF KOSOVO AND METOHIJA – Turks, Italians, Germans, NATO. As many time you repeate yourself and never read what I sent you so you may understand the situation in Balkans, it really shows that you do not know anything and do not want to.

You know, I didn`t know any Filipino until now and I always thought that they are charming and interesting people. As someone who was born in the most multicultural region of Balkans – Vojvodina (Dukedom), northern serbian province, I find your comments very shallow and narrowminded.

“Filipinos love Americans like no-one else on earth”
Oh how sweet…and pathetic at the same time. Shouldn`t Filipinos love their families and their own country like nothing else at first place? I really find that hard to belive. You remind me of those during-turkish-ocupation converted christians to Islam who started to be more anti-christian than Turks themselves, just to show to their bosses how great muslims they were (at the same time keeping ikons and crosses hidden at their homes). How oportunistic. So are you more American then US government showing how you hate Serbs so much?

You see, your posts are telling a lot about you.

“`Let my people go` is a powerful argument. ”
See, you can be useful sometimes.

“My point is that people are still people regardless of their beliefs, and they deserve consideration as such.”
Well, this is your way of doing this: “Anti-Serb ? Yes, in their present state.” So do you hate also Serbs in Kosovo, Macedonia, Bulgaria, Romania, Croatia, Slovenia, Montenegro, Greece, UK, USA…? Discusting.

“Forget Kosovo”
You can do that, instead of us.


143 posted on 05/12/2008 1:31:15 PM PDT by BabaYaga (BRE!)
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To: BabaYaga

Never is enough for me !

“bashing Greeks like that”

Greeks have a seriously bad attitude vs America. America has my 100% loyalty. I don’t know about you, but it seems to me that all loyal and aware Americans should have a beef against the Greeks as a result of this.

“saying that Serbs are “tribal nation” is quite a logical nonsence “

Its certainly not. That term has in fact been used for a certain kind of nation-state, and various nations fit that very well. It is intended as a disparaging term, in contract to a nation that sees its identity in law and not ethnicity.

“tell us please from which tribe are you?”

I am a native of Manila, a cosmopolitan city. My old country has many tribes (Tagalogs, Ilocanos, etc.), being a nation of dozens of language groups. It is, moreover, a very open and accepting place, where foreigners can easily assimilate. Our presidents have often been of mixed blood, some part Spanish, some part Chinese, etc., just as an example. It is an ethnic melting-pot. We are a natural fit for a melting-pot America. All of the above is irrelevant to this argument anyway.

” Can you tell me what can we thank your tribe for cultural, scientific, artistic achievement “

And how does this matter in this argument ? It is quite beside the point.

“Without one particular Serb you`d be using candlelight now.”

I am an EE, I don’t need a cite of Tesla. And, moreover, Tesla would have been nothing without the opportunities the US gave him. Thats what America is good for, letting people realize their potential without the narrow limits - physical, economic, mental - of their home country.

“Jesus, even the name of your country is not of native language but named after spanish king.”

Er, what does this have to do with this argument ?

“Dealing with the topic that you have no knowledge of just to show off and make you feel important by bashing oldest nations in Europe”

What does age have to do with anything ? Egypt is old, are its policies and attitudes today therefore immune from criticism ?

” your obsessive need to reply on every post without understanding it, repeating like a parrot same old stupid sentencies that no valid argument sent as reply can lead to the truth, using terms like tribe, communists etc. in same sentence with Serbs as way to describe them,well, that`s funny somehow.”

I am not the only obsessive here. My point on this matter is that there is a very narrow understanding of things on your end, a blinkered nationalism and a constrained moral sense that is very wrong according to my education. And, may I add, the argumentative problems on your end are an inability to stick to the point, a failure to address the opponents argument, to bring up irrelevant issues - like age of nations ? The origin of “Philippines” ?

“Shouldn`t Filipinos love their families and their own country like nothing else at first place?”

I think you have lost my meaning, either you have an insufficient grasp of English or you are being deliberately obtuse - Filipinos love Americans like no other people love Americans - better than the Japanese or Koreans or British or Australians, etc. love Americans - not that they love them better than they love their families, that is absurd.

“Really, if you read all the links I posted you`d see otherwise, but you only choose to read partialy, the parts that could serve you in future for repeating and repeating like posdessed. I never wrote “they were majority” from XVI cent. but that they were always USING forein invaders to get what they wanted “

The critical implication of your statement was that Albanians achieved the majority in Kosovo a very long time ago - when do you think that was ? The importance of this is that the current population - the individuals currently living there today - did not in fact come from Albania proper and are natives of the lands they now occupy, in Kosovo.

The means they used 60 to 400 years ago, fair or foul - and I am perfectly willing to grant that the means were foul, humanity being what it is, whether the means were direct invasion, outbreeding, illegal squatting, terrorism, sheep stealing or taking advantage of foreigners - is quite beside the point. What matters is that all the above is of historical interest only, as there is no ethical case for expelling these people from the lands they NOW occupy, and based on established principles of self-determination (Wilsons 14 points, US declaration of independence, etc.) as long as they occupy this land they have a right to declare independence if most of them want to.


146 posted on 05/12/2008 2:41:25 PM PDT by buwaya
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