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To: Bokababe

The alternative story, by Totten, who is a very credible source -

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/this-is-a-kosovar-muslim-11372

“American flags are on sale at kiosks everywhere. They fly in front of government buildings. The world’s second largest replica of the Statue of Liberty sits atop the five star Hotel Victory. The largest street downtown was renamed Bill Clinton Boulevard. Many businesses are likewise named after Clinton. One cafe owner called his establishment “Hillary” and placed two gigantic pictures of Bill and Hillary on the walls. Don’t assume, though, that this makes Kosovars Muslim versions of Euro-lefties. Clinton is rightly hailed as a liberator, but one resident told me “We are Republicans here in Kosovo.” They want a strong American President who won’t back down from commitments.

Just a few short blocks from Bill Clinton Boulevard is the Israeli Odyssea Bakery. It is not just a Jewish bakery, but an Israeli bakery owned and operated by an actual Israeli. The very idea of this would be unthinkable in even the most liberal of Arabic-speaking countries.

Accomplished businessman and practicing Muslim Luan Berisha told me that 90 percent of Kosovars support Israel in the Arab-Israeli conflict. I don’t know if that’s really true. But if so it means Kosovo is more pro-Israel than even the United States.”

Comment - Kosovo looks like an American success and there is no Caliphate there.


7 posted on 05/07/2008 10:34:26 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

“Kosovo looks like an American success and there is no Caliphate there.”

Famous last words?


8 posted on 05/07/2008 10:42:19 AM PDT by indcons
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To: buwaya

How many Christian churches are left in Kosovo? How many were there just prior to the war?


9 posted on 05/07/2008 10:45:22 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Who opposes John McCain's leftist agenda? The RNC, Rep Congress members, the Democrats? Good luck!)
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To: buwaya

Since when is Totten a credible source?
He is about as far left as you can get, from what I know of what he has written.


10 posted on 05/07/2008 10:50:48 AM PDT by HotDog1
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To: buwaya
"The alternative story, by Totten, who is a very credible source"

Yeah, Totten is a real "peach":

Michael J. Totten is a blogger who writes on politics in the Middle East, regularly reporting first-hand in mainstream publications, Web sites, and his blog, Michael J. Totten's Middle East Journal. He describes himself as a "weird combination of liberal, libertarian, and neocon."

As I said before, that article is a nonsense cheerleader piece designed to gain support for "the Kosovars", by flattering America. Most of us aren't stupid enough to think American flag-waiving trumps church-burning, nun-raping and the eviction of all non-Albanian, non-Islamic people.

You also linked directly to the article instead of the discussion of the same article here on FR that refutes a lot of Totten's Liberacon bull.

11 posted on 05/07/2008 10:53:36 AM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: buwaya
"Kosovo looks like an American success and there is no Caliphate there."

those that could fight for a Caliphate government are in Iraq fighting or died there.
I believe Iraq has helped all the middle east.

12 posted on 05/07/2008 11:24:47 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: buwaya
"Accomplished businessman.."

Yes, they accomplished the creation of a business in trafficking human organs and other various criminal enterprises.

16 posted on 05/07/2008 1:03:24 PM PDT by montyspython (Love that chicken from Popeye's)
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To: buwaya

IMO, Totten is hardly a “credible source”, for he seems to me that he has a rather heavy pro-Albanian bias. The Albanians like us because we intervened or interfered (take your pick) in a civil conflict basically on their side. I have heard it said that that is not the way to build a real friendship. People can and do change. After all, not all that long ago we helped liberated Kuwait from Saddam’s occupation, yet today there’s anti-Americanism present there.


18 posted on 05/07/2008 1:42:40 PM PDT by Jacob Kell (Member of the LCMS since birth.)
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To: buwaya
Comment - Kosovo looks like an American success and there is no Caliphate there.

200 plus Christian churches, monasteries, and cemeteries destroyed and you call that an American success.

God forbid the Serbian people should have to endure your idea of a failure!

25 posted on 05/07/2008 2:01:02 PM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: buwaya
Comment - Kosovo looks like an American success and there is no Caliphate Christians there.
87 posted on 05/07/2008 9:07:27 PM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: buwaya
Accomplished businessman and practicing Muslim Luan Berisha told me that 90 percent of Kosovars support Israel in the Arab-Israeli conflict. I don’t know if that’s really true. But if so it means Kosovo is more pro-Israel than even the United States.

Oh, is that why they ethnically cleansed all the Jews from the province? Albanians are a bunch of mediaeval heathens, and they'll be falling over themselves kissing your arse -- but you'd better grow a pair of eyes on your back.

Comment - Kosovo looks like an American success and there is no Caliphate there.

Sure, if by America you mean the worst ghetto in Flint, MI. Kosovo's unemployment is at around 70% and not even the basic services exist (garbage collection, for example). The prices have gone up 50% over the last 2 months (i.e. since the illegal, unilateral separation from Serbia).

115 posted on 05/10/2008 6:17:02 PM PDT by Banat (DEO + REGI + PATRIAE | Basileia Romaion)
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To: buwaya
"Comment - Kosovo looks like an American success"

You haven't looked deep enough.

"... by Totten, who is a very credible source"

Credible to whom?

122 posted on 05/11/2008 4:12:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: buwaya

buwaya..when was the last time you were in Kosovo?


165 posted on 05/13/2008 9:58:58 AM PDT by ma bell ("Bonus fortuna vobis quod equus vos rode una")
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To: buwaya
buwaya..if it such a successful place with peace..then why did I witness a small group of Albanian men chase a non-Albanian with picks and axes?

Why did I witness a botched kidnapping by a car full of Albanian men on a non-Albanian?

Why did I witness an Albanian try to run down a non-Albanian with his tractor?

166 posted on 05/13/2008 10:04:58 AM PDT by ma bell ("Bonus fortuna vobis quod equus vos rode una")
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To: buwaya

what utter garbage.

How many christians were KILLED for that little slice of propaganda? hundreds of thousands?

How many churches were DESTROYED for the propaganda piece.

Credible? HA! Joke is more like it.

sorry to burst your bubble but Kosovo is a COMPLETE FAILURE of the CLINTON AND BUSH administrations.

It was a balkanization ploy of the US state department that has created an opening for the Russian Army to be positioned in the northern remaining christian stronghold.

Just look at the catastrophy in the Middle east right now and you will see what is in store for the Balkans.


169 posted on 05/13/2008 11:32:06 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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