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1 posted on 06/23/2008 5:36:32 PM PDT by blam
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2 posted on 06/23/2008 5:36:54 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Very interesting. How does this date compare to those usually posited for Homer?


3 posted on 06/23/2008 5:42:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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Interesting. Thanks for posting. I really enjoyed reading Homer’s Iliad and Odyssey in college. Fascinating.

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4 posted on 06/23/2008 5:44:01 PM PDT by PGalt
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... he doubts Homer ever saw an eclipse himself...

Homer was blind... Unless he got that way by staring at the sun during an eclipse, its probably a fairly safe bet that he never saw one...

5 posted on 06/23/2008 5:51:01 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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read later


8 posted on 06/23/2008 6:17:30 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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...even the study authors admit Homer may not have been referring to an eclipse.

It's quite obvious from the narrative that Theoclymenus is not describing an eclipse. He is viewing the suitors in the banquet hall and describes the vision he is having of their impending doom:

Shrouded in night are your heads and your faces and your knees beneath you; kindled is the sound of wailing, bathed in tears are your cheeks, and sprinkled with blood are the walls and the fair panels. And full of ghosts is the porch, full also the court, ghosts hastening down to Erebus beneath the darkness, and the sun has perished out of heaven and an evil mist covers all.

... the suitors laugh at him and tell him to go outside, if it is so dark in the hall. The vision of the "evil mist" is fulfilled poetically when Odysseus shoots Eurymachus "upon the breast beside the nipple" and his death agonies are described in the usual Homeric detail, ending with "and over his eyes the mist (achlys) poured down."

12 posted on 06/23/2008 7:22:49 PM PDT by dr_lew
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The sun has perished out of heaven, and an evil mist has overspread the world.
Thanks blam!
 
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14 posted on 06/23/2008 10:30:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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In the shadow of the Moon
New Scientist | 30 January 1999 | editors
Posted on 08/31/2004 8:42:25 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1203912/posts

An epic battle on Homer’s gender
The Australian | July 03, 2006 | Dalya Alberge (The London Times)
Posted on 07/02/2006 7:46:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1659530/posts

Samuel Butler’s “Authoress of the Odyssey”:
http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/1727
http://ia301142.us.archive.org/1/items/authoressofodyss00butlrich/authoressofodyss00butlrich_djvu.txt

Drill hole begins Homeric quest
BBC News | Wednesday, 11 October 2006 | Jonathan Amos
Posted on 10/11/2006 9:53:43 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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Engineers To Help Find Homer’s Itacha
Yahoo News | 3-26-2007 | Derek Gatopoulos
Posted on 03/27/2007 3:15:17 PM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1807729/posts

Victor Davis Hanson: The Ancient Greeks – Were they like us at all?
The New Criterion | May 2004 | Victor Davis Hanson
Posted on 05/04/2004 8:33:07 PM PDT by quidnunc
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1129727/posts


15 posted on 06/23/2008 10:44:23 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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found this oldie.

+freerepublic +"by blam"
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16 posted on 06/23/2008 10:45:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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19 posted on 06/23/2008 10:59:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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bump for later read


21 posted on 06/23/2008 11:44:03 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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