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To: gobucks
"It is one thing to show an association and quite another to show cause and effect. We have to be very careful, but we will know in a few years."

This guy is obviously not a Climate Change scientist.

An association is all those guys need to form an incontrovertible consensus.

2 posted on 07/03/2008 12:15:59 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Public policy should never become the captive of a scientific-technological elite. -- Ike Eisenhower)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"It is one thing to show an association and quite another to show cause and effect. We have to be very careful, but we will know in a few years."

It would be great to see a plot of sunspot activity vs. the heliocentric phase angle between Saturn and Jupiter, covering the span of available sunspot observations.

If it's consistent over many centuries, these guys are prolly onto something. Their abstract suggests such a thing ... but it sure would be nice to see their actual data.

10 posted on 07/03/2008 12:41:29 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bump!


11 posted on 07/03/2008 12:44:31 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

These scientists need to read some articles by Dr. Fairbridge. Unfortunately, I can’t find the pertinent reference right now. Dr. Fairbridge wrote about 100 books and 1,000 articles on geophysical, oceanographic, and geological topics. His seminal work, was the influence of the planets an the Sun through the shifting center of gravity of the solar system due to the planets orbits. Naturally, Jupiter and Saturn have a major influence. Once again, one can show a correlation, but it is much harder to show a cause and effect relationship.


21 posted on 07/03/2008 2:13:34 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (Swift as the wind; Calmly majestic as a forest; Steady as the mountains.)
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