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Although family members plan to appeal to the Supreme Court, there is no guarantee the case will be heard. Phone numbers to begin a flood response to the White House are posted at the bottom of the article. I agree with Eagle Forum, let's do it!
1 posted on 08/14/2008 8:56:21 AM PDT by average american student
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Bush’s record on pardons is not encouraging for these guys.


2 posted on 08/14/2008 8:58:54 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Oderint dum metuant.)
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Oh it's a good cause no doubt, but unfortunately our illustrious President doesn't give a good damn about Ramos and Compean, he's already told the Engineer to get the train rolling, and don't worry about those Border Patrol agents that happen to be on the rails:
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3 posted on 08/14/2008 9:00:04 AM PDT by mkjessup ( Cuthbert the Lion sez "Please be polite & well mannered to all the little creatures of the forest")
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Why would he pardon them?

They hurt one of Mr. Bush’s constituents.


4 posted on 08/14/2008 9:01:52 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't Blame Me, I voted for Kodos!)
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Particularly in light of how the US Attorney handled the case, not letting the full truth about their star "witness" be heard, who has now been ocnvicted and sentenced to years in jail for doing the exact thing these Border patrol agents acosted him for, while he was being paid to testify against the agents.

These men should never have been convicted IMHO of criminal charges. Perhaps some admninstrative issues and a slap on the hand over the paperwork issues, but not criminal and not at all worthy of prison sentences. These men prevented (at the time) a wanton drug criminal from entering and distributing illegal drugs in this country. They should have gotten comendations for the actions that prevented that.

In fact, it was the US Attorney who enabled this criminal to come back in this country, under the color and protection of law, to continue his criminal behavior, which is now a proven fact.

There should be a FULL PARDON for both Border Patrol Agents! Very publically clearing their record and restoring their reputation.

5 posted on 08/14/2008 9:04:50 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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8 posted on 08/14/2008 9:17:10 AM PDT by AndrewC
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These two started out doing the right thing, but they screwed up trying to cover-up their deeds.

I am sorry, but I have to take the opposite view.

One of them kept on shooting the guy as he flees back to Mexico? What kind of s$%t is that for a law enforcement guy to do? No.

We are still a nation of law. When they raise their right hand and recited their oath of office, these two law enforcers swore to ‘faithfully execute their duties...according to the laws established...by the Constitution...’

In this particular instance, they have’t, violating even their own agency rules. And it’s been proven that they lied and can’t back up their ‘story’ before a jury of their peers.

C’mon, people. Let us NOT be defending the indefensible.


11 posted on 08/14/2008 9:32:41 AM PDT by Ben Reyes (No Man is Above the Law)
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The devil is in the details and this article like so many others not only leaves out the most important ones but misrepresents others.

Ramos and Compean did not intercept a van carrying 700 lbs. of pot nor did they shoot an illegal alien drug smuggler because none of those facts were known until after they shot the guy. All they knew is a van with Texas plates and an hispanic looking driver took them on a short high speed pursuit. He was prepared to give himself up when Compean took a swing at his head with the butt of his shotgun.

One has to consider that they were convicted by a jury of twelve which was upheld by a court of appeals that had three judges appointed by Ronald Reagan. When reading these articles one had to wonder “what aren't they telling me?”

I don't R&C should have been sentenced under the 924-C, but they did shoot an unarmed fleeing suspect in the back, avoided reporting the incident and then engaged in a cover up. The obstruction of justice counts that were thrown out by the appeals court were done so because the court ruled they didn't apply since a Border Patrol investigation is not an “official proceeding”, a technicality, not that it didn't happen.

Removing the ten year mandatory sentence would be appropriate but pardoning law enforcement officers who engage in such actions should also not be condoned...and that’s the message a pardon would send.

12 posted on 08/14/2008 9:35:56 AM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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BTW - I've been arguing this incident for a year and have read the entire trial transcripts (unlike most “supporters” who get all their facts from World Nut Job Daily). Before I did that I got all my info from these publications and was supporting R&C, but after reading them, to me, there as no doubt R&C shot a fleeing unarmed suspect in the back and then engaged in a cover up, not to mention lying their asses off on the stand.

If they had come forward, said “we screwed up” and threw themselves on the mercy of the court I would have supported no jail time. But they decided to go for the gold and lost. They made their bed, they have to sleep in it.

The Border Patrol is a fine agency with thousands of men and women who deserve our respect and support. Unfortunately, Ramos and Compean lost the right to that from us when they engaged in the cover up and destroyed evidence. They are not heroes and to treat them so is a slap in the face to all other BP agents who conduct their duties with honor and integrity.

15 posted on 08/14/2008 9:45:19 AM PDT by Bob J (For every 1000 hacking at the branches of evil, one strikes at it's root.)
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PING!

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28 posted on 08/14/2008 10:51:31 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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PING!

RAMOS/COMPEAN Ping
Please freepmail me if you want on or off this list.


50 posted on 08/15/2008 12:34:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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