"They can have any number of reasons" for not volunteering, Brown said. "They could be against it, they could be anti-government, or they eventually may want to help."
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Exercise your rights, be investigated. I would certainly not volunteer for any of this. Glocks are notorious for having balistic traces that are virtually indistinguishable from each other.
This is plain stupid, and a waste of tax money and investigators time.
We are the gov’t and we are here to help you.
If you’re innocent, what have you got to hide?
We just want to clear you.
And yes, there is a really big chaznce your barrel may produce similar results.
No, it is not a waste of time. It is an illustration of just how few leads this case has. If an investigative agency is reduced to doing what is little more than a random gun canvas they cannot have any other way to go.
I would have thought a .40 cal. would be considered a LARGE cal. bullet.
Dumb move on their part. They should have forced the cops to get a warrant, just on principle.
Officer Friendly should be doing ballistic tests on all LEO .40’s in that area also if there was any sincerity to the reason for this testing. JMO
So let me get this straight - A murder occurs and firearms owners submit their weapons for testing.
So I suppose the next time a woman is raped, will all men will have to submit their d**ks for testing in Oklahoma?
Check this story out, Dave.
This article was already posted a few days ago. You can read the flame wars there.
What struck me about this is that it was *identical* to the technique used by police in England to obtain DNA samples, after a particularly brutal crime.
But it didn’t stop there!
It began by asking all “adult males” in a city to submit DNA, to “eliminate them as suspects”. And they did get a very high turn out. And once in the database, the police *kept* that DNA information for future reference.
Then, unrelated to that brutal crime, other cities decided to do the same, asking for “voluntary” submissions of DNA, after they had their own, if not as heinous, crimes. Again, “helpful but stupid” citizens gave up their DNA, to be added to the database.
Then, seemingly out of the blue, the English Home Office started an elaborate process to create a NATIONAL DNA database. First, with just taking involuntary DNA samples from its prisoners. Then taking DNA samples from people who had been arrested, but not convicted.
And finally, to demand DNA samples from every citizen of England.
As such, they now have a national DNA database.
Remember, as with associating guns with gun owners, the police only have to do it once, and then they know forever. This now means that to identify most of the gun owners and guns in an area, they just need to poll gun dealers say, 20 times, for the most popular gun models.
This time, they’re looking for .40 Glocks. Next time, .357 Magnum S&Ws. Etc.
Does anyone honestly believe that the federal government isn’t trying to incrementally determine who owns guns, and what type of guns they own?
They may do it more subtly than the English, or sneakily, as the case may be. But do you doubt it for a minute?
That prompted concern Tuesday among many in the public, who noted that Oklahoma does not have a gun-registry law nor a central database of gun owners.
The wisdom of volunteering for testing aside, it seems like this incident establishes that the current system works, and that there's no need for a central database.
“Got probably cause, or else kiss my arse.”
I'd return a letter, certified to tell them politely “cease and desist any investigation in to my ownership of said firearm, or else you'll be hearing from my lawyer.”
CC the NRA legal team.
“to see why they didn’t volunteer”
Then it wasn’t VOLUNTARY!
Let me ask the cops something. Do they think the GUILTY person is going to take his/her gun down to the station?
These volunteers have pushed us all further down that slippery slope the LibTards have been greasing for the past 60 years or so.
This is positively chilling.
Voluntary test firing my firearms? I don’t think so...
How could they tell it was a Glock, rather than one of the other manufacturers?
I’m ashamed of the O.S.B.I. This voluntary test is absurd. I think it is nothing more than a publicity stunt.
The Glock used in the murders might not have been purchased locally, or even legally. And if they want to include all .40 Glocks in the area, they should remember to test the ones in possession of law enforcement agencies.
I would not submit my firearms for voluntary testing.
...like, say, they know they're innocent?
I wrote the reporter, expressing my own views as well as some expressed here via a vis the “voluntary” aspect and gun registration in general.
He said that he got letters from all over the country raising hell about this approach. The OBI did not come out well on this issue.
I was glad to see that a stink was raised. These authoritarian types will back off - and try again later.
However, I have to confess that since it wasn’t my kids who got murdered, I can take an arms-length philosophical view.
Police are allowed to lie to induce a confession. (ussc said so)
I suspect the police know this is 100% useless.
They just want an “in” to talk to the suspect without the benefit of a defense attorney.