No, that was God.
No!
Next question.
INTREP
“Using extremely sensitive mass spectrometers at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, Cleaves, Bada, and colleagues found traces of 22 amino acids in the experimental residues. That is about double the number originally reported by Miller and Urey and includes all of the 20 amino acids found in living things, the scientists report tomorrow in Science.”
I doubt the veracity of this claim. However, it will be very easy to reproduce the original experiment and verify if this can be repleted. No replication...no veracity. Besides, they still have the problem that these experiments produced racemic mixes of the amino acid (optical isomers). Only one isomer of all the 20 is found in life on this planet. That doesn’t fit well with the results. Another reason it was scraped.
Plus, as noted, proteins are not self replicating (don’t bring up prions because that is a different situation). DNA contains the code (Codons) for the sequence of amino acids that make up a protein. That code is transcribed into a messenger RNA which is then translated into protein (a sequence of amino acids) at a ribosome (an RNA and Protein body) in all cells types....both simple (prokaryotic) and more complex (eukaryotic). From a molecular biology point of view, the “secret” of life is DNA is transcribed to RNA which is then translated into protein. That is the Central Dogma since Watson and Crick. It is still pretty much accepted.
But Obama’d throw life away.
How did molecules and the subsequent compounds obtain the knowledge and the initiative to form absurdly complex life forms with interdependent physical systems, a conscience, emotions and the ability to create art?
Hmmm...could it be...God?
Naw. Must have just been a bizarre series of accidents. /s
Found traces??? Does that mean they found the actual animo acids or did they find tracks that could have the potential to lead to these animo acids???
So it appears that whoever put animo acids in living things also put animo acids in non living things...
I wish these guys would move a little faster on the research tho...I'm really curious as to how and why my eyes were made...And what showed up first, my eyes or my brain...And my eyelids...How many billions of years did we have eyes but no eyelids to open to see thru them???
And what about eating??? When did the first little bug get a mouth??? And figure out it's good to eat other little bugs...
And I'm curious about mountain goats...Did they keep falling off mountains for a couple of billions of years til their little feet adapted to where they could climb the rocks???
In my view, discovering animo acids in non living things isn't all that big a deal...Now when they figure out what animo acids evolved from, that might be newsworthy...
Here's the other side of the issue...
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
Ecc 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecc 8:17 Then I beheld all the work of God, that a man cannot find out the work that is done under the sun: because though a man labor to seek it out, yet he shall not find it; yea further; though a wise man think to know it, yet shall he not be able to find it.
Psa 139:14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvelous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
Gen 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
“The big question is what happened next—how did those molecules turn into self-replicating organic compounds? “That’s the frontier,” Cleaves says, “and we’re sort of stuck there.”
It’s more the South Rim of the Grand Canyon. Even if I can see the other side I can’t get there by small steps.
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The Miller/Urey Experiment...There has been a recent wave of skepticism concerning Miller's experiment because it is now believed that the early earth's atmosphere did not contain predominantly reductant molecules. Another objection is that this experiment required a tremendous amount of energy. While it is believed lightning storms were extremely common on the primitive Earth, they were not continuous as the Miller/Urey experiment portrayed. Thus it has been argued that while amino acids and other organic compounds may have been formed, they would not have been formed in the amounts which this experiment produced.
Cruising Chemistry
Many of the compounds made in the Miller/Urey experiment are known to exist in outer space. On September 28, 1969, a meteorite fell over Murchison, Australia. While only 100 kilograms were recovered, analysis of the meteorite has shown that it is rich with amino acids. Over 90 amino acids have been identified by researchers to date. Nineteen of these amino acids are found on Earth. (table showing comparison of Murchison meteorite to Miller/Urey experiment) The early Earth is believed to be similar to many of the asteroids and comets still roaming the galaxy. If amino acids are able to survive in outer space under extreme conditions, then this might suggest that amino acids were present when the Earth was formed. More importantly, the Murchison meteorite has demonstrated that the Earth may have acquired some of its amino acids and other organic compounds by planetary infall.
miller ureyMiller-Urey Experiment...After a day of continuous operation, Miller and Urey found a thin layer of hydrocarbons on the surface of the water. After about a week of operation, a dark brown scum had collected in the lower flask and was found to contain several types of amino acids, including glycine and alanine, together with sugars, tars, and various other unidentified organic chemicals.
Davi Darling
If I were to take a BLT sandwich and expose it to lightning how long would it take to create life? Surely a BLT contains most if not all of the building blocks of life.
If the creation of life can be traced to one event where the building blocks were lined up just right by some force. Why hasn’t the formation of life been repeated in nature in the billions of succeeding years when the building blocks were much more prevalent?