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McCain camp questions accuracy of polls
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Posted on 10/30/2008 9:50:54 PM PDT by Chet 99

As the date of the US election grows closer, opinion polls are showing Democratic candidate Barack Obama is still on track to become America's first black president.

Several new opinion polls are released each day - dozens each week.

But Republican nominee John McCain's campaign says its internal figures suggest that the result on election day may be much closer than the independent polls are suggesting.

At each of his campaign rallies, Senator McCain loves to mention that he is behind in the polls but that he is going to fool the pundits and pull off an upset win on election day. It is a line he repeated in an interview with Larry King.

"I know we're still the underdog. We're now two or three or four points down and we've got six days to go to make that up but it's not a matter of worry. You and I have been together long enough, you know, I love the underdog status. I just want to leave that status by the time the polls close," he said.

The opinion polls show that not only is he behind nationally, he is trailing Senator Obama in key battleground states, including those won by President George W Bush in 2004.

But there are so many polls it is hard to know which one to believe.

Karl Rove is a former adviser to Mr Bush, who is credited with orchestrating his two election victories. Even he cannot believe how many opinion polls are being released.

"We're all getting pollitis here. In the first 24 days of October this year, there have been 177 national polls. By comparison in 2004, during the first 24 days of October, there were 55. We've had 300 per cent more polls in 2008," he said.

Senator McCain's lead pollster, Bill McInturff, has released a memo saying that next week's election may easily be too close to call.

He writes "the McCain campaign has made impressive strides over the last weeks of tracking. The campaign is functionally tied across the battleground states, with our numbers improving sharply over the last four tracks".

Functionally tied, as Mr McInturff explains, "means as a pollster that you're within margin of error".

"If you're in two or three points it means that on any given day you're going to see some fluctuation variation. So one day we could be a point ahead, the next day you're two points down," Mr McInturff said.

"Functionally tied was my way as a pollster of saying that I believe that we are within margin of error across these incredibly important battleground states."

Mr McInturff also says his polling shows that about 8 per cent of voters are either undecided or will not tell the pollster who they will vote for.

"We did a special study where we looked at that 8 per cent and we looked at who they were," he said.

"Who they were are older voters who live in rural America who are somewhat downscale, not college graduates.

"In the past they tell us that in 2004 they voted for George Bush by a two to one margin. And given their partisan roots, given their Bush over Carey split ... I believe they're going to break very heavily towards John McCain and I think that's roughly an additional thee plus points that will shift to McCain as all the votes are counted."

"If you take a functionally tied race and you add three or four points as these people break, guess what? The race is tied."

Karlyn Bowman, a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute where she studies public opinion, says it is difficult to decipher the opinion polls.

"The polls have certainly proliferated. I sometimes wonder whether they're a little like paper money in Argentina; a currency with less value than they've had in the past because of the vast number of them," she said.

Some of the opinion polls are saying that Senator Obama has a very big lead over Senator McCain, up to double digits. Others are saying that his lead has narrowed to just a couple of points.

But Ms Bowman says while "there is some significant variation in the polls ... in some ways most of the major polls have actually been pretty stable".

"Recently in [pollster] Mark Blumenthal's compilation he argues that the Obama lead has narrowed ever so slightly in recent days, it's now at about 6.7 points in their overall estimate of the national trends," Ms Bowman said.

"And you see a little bit more movement in the Republican direction in some of the daily tracking polls, but still a picture of stability in some ways if you look at one individual poll and then compare it to that pollster's results a few days later."

Ms Bowman says she expects the gap between Senator Obama and Senator McCain to close, but the race is "Obama's to lose".

"I mean, certainly the McCain [camp] wants to suggest that we still have a race in order to get Republicans out to the polls but most of the other national polls, non-proprietary data, the kind that McCain's pollster's conducting, have it within a pretty similar range, again all suggesting an Obama lead," she said.


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To: Chet 99; All
”I mean, certainly the McCain [camp] wants to suggest that we still have a race in order to get Republicans out to the polls ...”

You couldn’t beg for a smokier gun. “Stay home; resistance is futile.”

Balls and Urns

21 posted on 10/30/2008 10:07:31 PM PDT by dighton
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To: Chet 99
Obama Media Manipulation Tactics Exposed in Pro-Hillary Blog Post?


22 posted on 10/30/2008 10:09:25 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: snarkytart

People still watch MTV...really...that is surprising.

I thought they mostly ran infomercials now?


23 posted on 10/30/2008 10:09:56 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: ImJason

Ehh...hopefully the people of Philly will be so ill from a week of debauchery that they do not vote neither early, nor often...


24 posted on 10/30/2008 10:11:22 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: padre35
If they believe what the MSM is telling them, they may just decide to stay home. But every one on our side MUST turn out. Let's show the MSM we're still relevant!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

25 posted on 10/30/2008 10:22:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Chet 99; padre35

Well, we have the Phillies streak....the only other time that they won the World Series, in 1980, Reagan beat Carter!

Not to suggest that McCain is Reagan...but Obama certainly bears scary resemblance to Jimmah.


26 posted on 10/30/2008 10:50:08 PM PDT by Sterm26 (Philadelphia Phillies -2008 World Series Champs!)
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To: padre35

Fear not Padre, many of the Obama voters in Philly are resting in peace, or being bused in from out-of-state! I would add a sarcasm tag, but that would be dishnest.

I daresay that the areas of town happiest about the Phils are precincts that McCain will win.


27 posted on 10/30/2008 10:55:08 PM PDT by Sterm26 (Philadelphia Phillies -2008 World Series Champs!)
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To: Sterm26

I notice you used the phrase “sarcasm tag” are you a farker too? not many conservatives there, but there are a few. it is good to beable to debate with people of different ideas...something that rarely happens here.


28 posted on 10/31/2008 1:06:10 AM PDT by 09Patriot (I am a MILITANT Conservative, compassionate conservativism got us NOWHERE)
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29 posted on 10/31/2008 1:19:42 AM PDT by cartoonistx
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