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David Frum to the Religious Right: Drop Dead
www.takimag.com ^ | November 05, 2008 | Tom Piatak

Posted on 11/07/2008 1:07:40 PM PST by Publius804

David Frum to the Religious Right: Drop Dead

Posted by Tom Piatak on November 05, 2008

After weeks of expressing contempt for the delcasse Sarah Palin, David Frum has now expressed his disdain for the voters who liked Palin and who have propelled the GOP to victory after victory since Reagan’s election in 1980, the evangelical Christians and conservative Catholics who vote Republican because of their concern over issues like abortion. According to Frum, such voters need to be jettisoned because “College-educated Americans have come to believe that their money is safe with Democrats--but their values are under threat from Republicans.”

To pursue the burgeoning yuppie class, “will involve painful change, on issues ranging from the environment to abortion. And it will involve potentially even more painful changes of style and tone: toward a future that is less overtly religious, less negligent with policy and less polarizing on social issues.”

What Frum neglects to add is that none of these changes would be “painful” for him, a pro-abortion, non-religious denizen of a tony Washington neighborhood, who has long been uncomfortable with social issues and tolerated religious voters so long as they were willing to vote Republican without expecting much in return and serve as cannon fodder in the wars Frum wants America to fight, but now thinks he has found something better.

The question is, with National Review giving the boot to its founder’s son and Jeffrey Hart, why does it still keep Frum around? Is National Review, too, becoming embarrassed by religious conservatives? (Thanks to John Seiler for pointing out this latest revelation from David Frum).

(Excerpt) Read more at takimag.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; christianvote; conservatism; davidfrum; frum; mccain; moralabsolutes; religiousright; republicans
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To: The_Republican
Sister Sarah is the past. GOP needs to move on and move on now.

So the 91% who like Sarah should give in to the 9% who don't. Sounds about as democratic as the union credir-check.

101 posted on 11/07/2008 1:48:04 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.)
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To: Publius804
Frum is now and has been a poor intellectual joke. He is a Canadian who went to Yale, and staid around to lecture American Conservatives on what they should or should not be doing. He wrote a book trying to justify the absurd idea that it was in our interests to try to change other people's cultures, in order to promote "Democracy," and he has frequently expressed disdain for the values of rooted American Conservatives.

Does anyone believe that a true Conservative, settling here from another country, would feel it proper to lecture those with multi-generational roots as to their core beliefs in seeking to preserve their culture? That is not the sort of attitude that goes with a Conservative personality. It is the attitude of a self-promoting poseur, to be sure, but not that of a Conservative.

For a touch of humor on the Frum case: David Frum To Haiti Project.

102 posted on 11/07/2008 1:48:50 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: RegulatorCountry
Neither could Andrew Sullivan.


103 posted on 11/07/2008 1:48:55 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: dhuynh73
“David Frum you are an embarassement to conservative.”-dhuynh73

Frum isn't an embarrassment to Conservatives...He'd have to be an actual Conservative for that to be true. The dude is just an embarrassment period.

104 posted on 11/07/2008 1:49:05 PM PST by skully (It's time to get going on 2010!!! Let's get some seats back)
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To: All

Well, gee, if college educated people are the entire electorate and Frum concedes that they accept that Dems are better with their money and that the Dems reflect their social values as well, then, Frum, why even have a republican party? And why don’t guys like you just become Democrats officially.

These people don’t make any sense. If the above is true about educated Americans, then conservatives have to set about educating, not becoming like Dems.


105 posted on 11/07/2008 1:49:08 PM PST by Madeleine Ward (.)
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To: Cedric

Rush paid her little mind except for comic relief but I do not put anything past the dems on this one. After all, we kept HIldebeast alive though cross over votes.

More than anything we fielded a poor assortment...the one candidate I liked went nowhere—Duncan Hunter.

And Bush wimped out. He could have dumped Cheney and got a vibrant youthful energetic GOP VP—— someone who was fearless and would have been poised to take over.


106 posted on 11/07/2008 1:51:34 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
So the 91% who like Sarah should give in to the 9% who don't.

RNC die-hards are a whole lot like Grace slick at Woodstock: they're generally tripping out of their minds on some damned thing or another, and their babblings are all 110% gibberish. ;)

107 posted on 11/07/2008 1:51:49 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: LA Woman3

David Frum pretty much confirms the points I made in my email to you yesterday.

Social conservatives, shut up, vote for whomever we decide to run and oh, BTW, don’t forget to send that check.


108 posted on 11/07/2008 1:52:48 PM PST by kalee
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

I don’t even wanna hear Word One out of those go-along-to-get-along RNC losers


AMEN!


109 posted on 11/07/2008 1:52:55 PM PST by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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To: The_Republican

> Anyone has link to original David Frum article? <

Why read the original Frum article? It’s much more fun to bash him when you haven’t read what he says.


110 posted on 11/07/2008 1:53:10 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

(big grin!)


111 posted on 11/07/2008 1:53:42 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Publius804
David Frum's 10 Reason to Vote for John McCain.

His reason #1?

1) John McCain is white . . .

Seriously

We need a new coalition. I'd rather have the Blacks and Hispanics than the Frums and Hitchens and Smerconishes.

112 posted on 11/07/2008 1:53:47 PM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: exit82

You live in NJ, a state where the GOP barely qualifies to stay on the ballot under the election law (I think that you need to get more than 30% of the statewide vote for members of the Assembly to be a fully recognized party). So how do you propose to get a new party on the ballot without continual expensive and exhausting petition campaigns?


113 posted on 11/07/2008 1:55:38 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.)
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To: AuntB
Go away you nasty, Wal-Mart shopping, brown gravy buying little person! When, in four years you will be called to apply your vote, we will call you. Until then, be quiet!

Signed,

GOP/RNC.

114 posted on 11/07/2008 1:56:53 PM PST by Leisler (Obama is going to give us all Unicorns!)
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To: Publius804
If you want a serious conservative magazine/journal read First Things.

Agreed!

115 posted on 11/07/2008 1:56:53 PM PST by E. Cartman (Will Bush, Bernanke or Paulson let Uncle Sam handle their personal wealth?)
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To: Hawthorn

Here is the link:

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/11/05/david-frum-republicans-face-choice-between-two-paths-to-revival.aspx


116 posted on 11/07/2008 1:56:55 PM PST by Publius804
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To: Tribune7
FRUM: "John McCain is white, the son and grandson of admirals, married to a wealthy heiress – and yet he has experienced degrees of suffering, despair, and defeat that not one in a million of us can imagine. Barack Obama wears a black skin and carries an exotic name."

Holy @#$%!

It's like David Duke, only with a slight, self-conscious Cambridge accent.

117 posted on 11/07/2008 1:57:08 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: eleni121
There's no doubt the GOP nominating process needs to be revamped.

Ya let the other guys choose your candidate and they're gonna give ya the easiest to beat guy, right?

End “open” primaries and apportion delegates according to the % GOP vote in the prior general election.

That’ll get everyone’s attention!

118 posted on 11/07/2008 1:57:27 PM PST by Cedric
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To: Leisler; AuntB
Go away you nasty, Wal-Mart shopping, brown gravy buying little person! When, in four years you will be called to apply your vote, we will call you. Until then, be quiet!

"P.S. -- Please send more money."

119 posted on 11/07/2008 2:00:34 PM PST by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (G-d watch over and protect Sarah Palin and her family.)
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To: Publius804

Who is David Frum and why should I care what he has to say?


120 posted on 11/07/2008 2:00:54 PM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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