David Frum to the Religious Right: Drop Dead

www.takimag.com ^ | November 05, 2008 | Tom Piatak

[uncbob]

I be saying the same thing

[E. Cartman]

Well then it sounds like these college educated Americans have already found a home with the dims if they agree with them on economic issues and at the same time dislike pubbie values. To accept Frum’s argument, what’s the point in even keeping the Republican party around?

Now that the GOP appears in trouble, in the coming months watch for the neo-con ticks to start hopping back over to the democrat party. No use hanging onto a sick host when there's a perfectly healthy one to be sucked off of.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

Wow a link to prodigy.net. Takes me way, way back.

[exit82]

LCS—I moved from NJ in 2006 to get away from the high taxes and the terminally stupid people who kept voting in Democrats. I’m in Southern Delaware in Sussex County, which is a red county, thank God, composed of decent people.I have Senator Moron and Senator Me-Too(otherwise known as Biden and Carper) and a RINO Congressman, Mike Castle.

The good news is that the Republican candidate for Senate against Biden, who got no help from the GOP, no money either, nothing, campaigning on a shoestring, got 35% of the vote with the invincible Biden got only 65%. That is huge here in DE.

Again the feckless GOP couldn’t support any Senate candidates and thus, gain seats. Nope, wouldn’t be prudent.

As far as the costs, don’t you think that energizing the base with a new party, the money would be there? are their no conservative businessmen or people of means that could helpful? Do it once and get it going.

My point is, like in NJ, why do the same thing over and over and expect a different result?

I believe that is the definition of insanity.

[Palin4ever]

The first time I saw Frum was on Sissy Matthews show about 11 years ago. He was a complete dork, and the whole panel(including some real conservatives) didn’t hide their laughter whenever he spoke. That was the last I saw of him for awhile. I was pretty surprised when I saw him turn up as part of Dubya’s campaign. Too bad he didn’t slide into the obscurity that he deserves.

[E. Cartman]

"P.S. -- Please send more money."

P.P.S. --- We don't need you anyway, 'cuz we're going to replace you with all the illegal aliens we amnesty...sure only 23% of Latinos voted for us this time around, but after the amnesty , their number will soar to 25%!

[Tribune7]

Remember that was reason #1.

Frum shouldn't let the door hit him in his ass as he flees from us social conservatives.

[kamaaina]

I didn’t leave the Republican Party. The Republican Party left me...

k.

[evilC]

Taki Mag also gave us the term Frumbag (at least that is where I first saw it).

The perfect term for these limp-wristed turncoat "conservatives.

[Carley]

Is Frum telling Sarah Palin to drop dead.

[Rutles4Ever]

New prediction:

Hillary will become a Republican and run against Obama as a centrist in 2012.

Bookmark this post.

[Leisler]

".P.S. --- We don't need you anyway, 'cuz we're going to replace you with all the illegal aliens we amnesty...sure only 23% of Latinos voted for us this time around, but after the amnesty , their number will soar to 25%! "

Besides, I can get them in my gated community( Americans out, illegals in. In to mow, cut, wash, clean, wipe, paint.....) Lovely people. Never complain, no voting questions, just...just ideal. We we had more of them. Salt of the earth type. Did you know they call me 'Patron'? I love it when them cute little buggers do that. Also, when I leave the house, one opens the car door and the others take their hats off and look at their feet. That's the way to go to a to a RNC party I tell you!)

[American in Israel]

Secular/Cultural Jews (like their counterparts in the “Christian” world) hate practicing and outspoken Christians.

Almost as much as they hate practicing and outspoken Jews.

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

I'm in Florida now, politics is better, although we lost to Obama and my own local new congresscritter is a code pink supporter. In the US system there is no room for a third party. The only way a new party can form is if an old one ceases to run candidates. The last time that happened was 154 years ago. Since then the only way to change policies is to join an existing party, and ally yourself with other party members to change the party's policies. That has happened on numerous occasions in both parties over the period. One way that happens is the supporters of one sort of policies retire or die and are replaced by either the other party or by the new members of their own party. In our current situation we have see the loss of many more liberal Republicans in the last several cycles, leaving the residual party much more conservative. As far as a lasting taint on the Republican name is concerned, if former associations were permanent, blacks would be Republicans, and southerners would be Democrats. The party is merely a legal structure to be used.

[Jim Noble]

The world will hate you because of me. My kingdom is not of this world.

[Jim Noble]

You and Liz still don’t like my boy Rudy, huh? He would have kicked Obama’s ass.

[ought-six]

I’m a college graduate with post-graduate work, and I have NEVER thought my money would be safer with Democrats. David Frum is an imbecile, and whenever he speaks something is subtracted from the sum total of human knowledge.

[Rutles4Ever]

RNC die-hards are a whole lot like Grace slick at Woodstock: they're generally tripping out of their minds on some damned thing or another, and their babblings are all 110% gibberish. ;)

FWIW, this is the predictable outcome of an election like this. The need for a scapegoat overrides any intellectual honesty among people like Frum. On the other side of the aisle, they are spinning furiously to blame the Prop 8 defeat not on the black vote, but "religious-types". On our side of the aisle - guess what - it's the "religious-types" who are getting blamed for the GOP platform not appealing to enough voters. You could almost - ALMOST - hear Frum utter the words "clingy" and "bitter".

So, in my opinion, if we're going to go to war with the GOP establishment, we need to do it now, while there's time to rebuild the foundation for 2012. A split party won't do anything but get Obama re-elected. If Frum and company are going to try and throw us overboard, better we do it to them first. Take no prisoners.

[KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle]

So, in my opinion, if we're going to go to war with the GOP establishment, we need to do it now, while there's time to rebuild the foundation for 2012.

There's not a single, solitary aspect of anything you just wrote with which I could conceivably disagree.

You're right, and righter than right.

[bitterohiogunclinger]

” such voters need to be jettisoned because “College-educated Americans have come to believe that their money is safe with Democrats—but their values are under threat from Republicans.”

Well, if they believe their money is safe with Democrats, they don't have any values, and they most definitely aren't educated, no matter how many colleges they've been to.