The founding fathers were wise to develop the Electoral College and the system seems to work quite well.
Senator Griffo typifies the kind of Republicans we have in the People’s Republic of New York—those who resemble thick skinned four legged animals with a prominent horn—a RhINO.
if new york is in favor of it, you can bet that it’s designed to increase the influence of . . . new york.
the protections of the electoral college are crucial to the republic and to the voice of those of us who do not live in cities or on the coasts and who nevertheless have the temerity to think that it’s our country, too.
Stands about as much a chance as a snow ball in hell!!
And this bill furthers the irrelevancy.
Why would either party come to New York, except, of course, to raise money from the millionaires that live here?
I don't like the idea at all -- even though it would give the GOP a shot and winning New York.
The Constitution needs to stay AS IS. If it ain’t broke, don’t try to fix it.
The only thing I’d change about the Electoral College system would be to allocate the votes by Congressional district, not “winner take all.”
States with smaller population than NY and California would be less than enthusiastic about this proposal.
Once you begin changing the US Constitution for political expediency, you have stepped on the slippery slope and may be surprised how quickly other changes happen. Changes you may not like.
If the Republican party wants to win an election they should run a candidate that is not just Democrat Lite...
Give American a real Conservative and the will vote them in over a liberal or socialist everytime..
Get rid of ACORN, which disenfranchises legitimate voters and the 17th Amendment which disenfranchises States, THEN we’ll talk about disenfranchising Congress of their EC votes. Until then, I kind of like the idea of check and balance. Even though Congress is to blame for ACORN and the 17th.
“Under a recent proposal sponsored by New York state Sen. Joseph Griffo, R-Rome, the countrys popular vote would be the deciding factor of where some states Electoral College votes would go when it comes to choosing future U.S. presidents. “
Griffo should be run out of town. This bill would allow Philadelphia, Chicago, New York, San Franciso, Boston, Newark New Jersey, the Raleigh Durham Triangle, Baltimore, etc to select all future Presidents.
Any party opposed to the policies of the Democrats would be finished and states like Montana, Idaho, Alaska, Alabama, Mississippe, etc would not even get any attention from Presidential candidates.
Look at New Jersey. THAT is what you would have on a national level. Not all of that state is liberal Democrat, but the Dems control the political machines in all the big and moderate sized cities in that state and the suburbs and rural areas - mainly non-minority, educated and propductive, exsist only to be parasitized by the deyed inners cities and the Democrat controlled machines which run them
Griffo is either a closet Democrat or an idiot.
The National Popular Vote bill goes into effect only if a group of States which equal a majority of the Electoral Votes (at least 270 of 538) adopt this bill. New York’s passing of this bill would not cause it to go into effect. This bill is a bad idea for New York, and would be a catastrophe for the nation, so I doubt expect this bill to pass in New York.
You are not voting to decide which candidate's electors get our state's votes. Your vote will be pooled with the rest of the country and the winner of the popular vote will get our electors."
Here's a great scenario: The popular vote is "too close to call". Lawsuits are intiated in 435 districts. Some states won't count absentee and disputed ballots unless they're needed. So now states within the compact are suing those states to force them to count them so the popular vote winner can be determined. The entire election sits in limbo for weeks. One of the compact states decides not to wait. To take advantage of "safe harbor" they must appoint their electors by 12/12. So they drop out. Now there are not enough states in the compact to determine the winner so the other states that joined are now no longer in it. Lawyers and judges pick the President. Rioting ensues.
ANYthing they think is a good idea in the New York legislature must prima facie be idiotic...
This cretin is a Republican? I would think that a republican would want to uphold the original intent of the constitution. Further proof there is no republican party in New York and there are no republicans.
How about this? From Article I, Section 10, Paragraph 3 (my emphasis added):
No state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty of tonnage, keep troops, or ships of war in time of peace, enter into any agreement or compact with another state, or with a foreign power, or engage in war, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent danger as will not admit of delay.
Unless there is a law requiring a majority vote to win the presidency, a national popular vote law will lead to 100’s of candidates and parties, and a winner who could win with a low percentage of the vote. Twenty-five percent is entirely reasonable. In fact, it could eventually become a strategy to encourage a 100 candidates.
Art IV Sec 4 guarantees to every State a Republican form of government. IMO, this legislation violates that clause of the Constitution.
Not to disappoint
Would be in instant violation of the US Constitution. Not that that matters a tinkers Damn anymore...
Clause 3. No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State,
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