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Greenhouse gases could have caused an ice age, claim scientists
Telegraph via sott.net ^ | 01 Jan 2009 | Richard Alleyne

Posted on 01/01/2009 11:22:47 PM PST by neverdem

Edited on 01/01/2009 11:51:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: neverdem
Actually, there's one possibility on how greenhouse gases can cause an ice age: when the Arctic and Antarctic ice melts big time it dumps a HUGE amount of cold water into the oceans, severely disrupting oceanic currents. Once those currents are disturbed, that interferes with the warming effect of oceanic currents (especially the Pacific Current and Gulf Stream), which causes land masses east of these ocean currents to rapidly cool down, causing an ice age in the middle to high latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere.
41 posted on 01/02/2009 4:18:52 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: neverdem
"Researchers at the University of Birmingham found that 630 million years ago the earth had a warm atmosphere full of carbon dioxide but was completely covered with ice."

Bottom line......whether it's global warming or global cooling, you're not going to get rid of environmental whackos and their psuedo science. And more importantly - taxpayers are going to fund their nonsense to the tune of billions per year.

42 posted on 01/02/2009 4:39:13 AM PST by TPOOH (I wish I could have been Jerry Reed.)
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To: neverdem
good grief....either the oceans will boil or will be buried under a mile of ice...and any option in between....now they got everything covered....so they must be right...right?

We are living in a world of make beleive....fogged by the worship of liberal ideology....in other words....naivety and ignornace....

What's next?
43 posted on 01/02/2009 4:47:08 AM PST by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: neverdem

Why haven’t these clowns figured it out? Instead of creating new “epicycles” to explain how CO2 alters climate...perhaps they should admit CO2 has little to do with climate.


44 posted on 01/02/2009 4:48:11 AM PST by Malsua
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To: VeniVidiVici
"Not sure. But with all those dinosaurs they had to have been big."

Imagine the tax revenue that would have been garnished on dinosaur fart taxs....it must dizzy the mind of today's liberal....
45 posted on 01/02/2009 4:53:12 AM PST by PigRigger (Donate to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org - The Troops have our front covered, let's guard their backs!)
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To: PigRigger
What's next?
....the four JackAsses of Doom: (OBambi/OBiden/OPelosi/OReid)

"Troika / Footstool of Liberalism...Corruption, Nationalization & Propaganda" Rush Limbaugh
“Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P.J.O’Rourke

46 posted on 01/02/2009 5:08:25 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (just b/c you're paranoid, doesn't mean "they" aren't out to get you.. :^)
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To: tcrlaf

Grant money causes global warming and will lead to the coming ice age.


47 posted on 01/02/2009 5:24:02 AM PST by GBA
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To: smokingfrog

Don’t know what her favorite desert is, but I’d like to know what her favorite dessert is.


48 posted on 01/02/2009 5:25:31 AM PST by EBH ( Directive 10-289)
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To: neverdem

We knew this would happen. Start cooling and its greenhouse gases...man we said this a while ago. LOL


49 posted on 01/02/2009 5:26:35 AM PST by EBH ( Directive 10-289)
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To: FBD
-What a bunch of asshats.

LOL! I honestly can't think of a better way to describe them.

50 posted on 01/02/2009 5:26:57 AM PST by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: RayChuang88
“Actually, there's one possibility on how greenhouse gases can cause an ice age: when the Arctic and Antarctic ice melts big time it dumps a HUGE amount of cold water into the oceans, severely disrupting oceanic currents. Once those currents are disturbed, that interferes with the warming effect of oceanic currents (especially the Pacific Current and Gulf Stream), which causes land masses east of these ocean currents to rapidly cool down, causing an ice age in the middle to high latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere.”

This is a “Rube-Goldberg” theory of how climate works. There are so many potential fail points here that it becomes a joke. Are each of them possible. Yes. Is it likely that events will all fall into order as speculated?
Highly unlikely.

Any one can figure out ways to come up with disastrous results if they are allowed to concoct improbable scenarios. We need to apply Occam's Razor, which in essence says if there is a simpler explanation, we should use the simpler theory in favor of the complex one.

51 posted on 01/02/2009 5:34:30 AM PST by marktwain
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To: neverdem

Its not too hard to understand. They may have concluded that temperatures are really going down. That kinda makes it hard to justify the GW wealth redistribution schemes, unless you come up with a new theory why greenhouse gases are bad. So, GW becomes Global Cooling and the more generic “climate change”. Any kind of climate change is bad you see and will require heavy taxation to “fix”.

This whole switcheroo reminds me of Orwell’s “1984”, where the Government one data said that their superstate (Eurasia) was suddenly at peace with EastAsia and at war with Oceania, when the exact opposite had been the case. Yet the new reality was made to appear like it had been the case all along.


52 posted on 01/02/2009 5:38:46 AM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

“Methinks these ‘scientists’ skipped out on logic classes. Then they’d know about the principle of ‘non-contradiction’.”

These idiots see the writing on the wall - temperatures are going to cool and GW is going to become a joke. So they are getting ready to blame cooling on greenhouse gases so that they can continue to drive down capitalism and economic growth.


53 posted on 01/02/2009 6:11:27 AM PST by Laserman
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To: neverdem

And monkeys could have flown out of my butt.


54 posted on 01/02/2009 6:14:22 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: blueplum
“...we're all gonna die from an drought(delete) Ice Age.”

They're not contradictory.
Regardless of what the religion of the Goreacle says, it is the Ice Ages that increase drought around the earth, NOT the warm periods.
A warm earth is a wet earth, and that's a GOOD thing!!!

55 posted on 01/02/2009 6:26:46 AM PST by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: neverdem
"Damnit, our plans of world domination called for implementation of the carbon tax. Poindexter, I ordered you to give me the science necessary to make that happen. Your model - change it! change it now. I don't care what you have to say or how that makes you look, just change it! I want that tax."

Thus spake AlGorethustra

56 posted on 01/02/2009 6:44:53 AM PST by NonValueAdded (once you get to really know people, there are always better reasons than [race] for despising them.)
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To: neverdem
Researchers at the University of Birmingham found that 630 million years ago the earth had a warm atmosphere full of carbon dioxide but was completely covered with ice.

So now CO2 can cause the laws of thermodynamics to not apply?
57 posted on 01/02/2009 6:47:21 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: ffusco

but having a snowblower running and ready does ward off snowstorms, or so I was told...


58 posted on 01/02/2009 7:01:48 AM PST by rahbert
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To: neverdem
While pollution in the air is thought to trap the sun's heat in the atmosphere, causing the planet to heat up, this new research suggests it could also have the opposite effect reflecting rays back into space.

TRANSLATION: Al Gore could be right....or not.

59 posted on 01/02/2009 10:24:26 AM PST by randog (Hope is a bad business plan.)
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To: randog
TRANSLATION: Al Gore could be right....or not.

Al Gore (who invented the Interrnet) is right.

After all, yesterday, 1 January 2009, was the hottest day by far of the entire year so far. When was the last time the first of January was the hottest day of the year, I ask you?

60 posted on 01/02/2009 10:45:17 AM PST by sima_yi ( Palin / Jindal 2012)
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