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1 posted on 03/02/2009 11:50:46 AM PST by Coleus
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Our martyrs don't die in the process of taking the lives of others. Instead, we die for having introduced others to the only One Who can save a man's soul.

"Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." - Matt. 10:28

2 posted on 03/02/2009 11:59:14 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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And we think we have “a cross to bear.”


3 posted on 03/02/2009 11:59:26 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Lord have mercy (40x))
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Wow. Coming soon to Amerika.


4 posted on 03/02/2009 12:00:54 PM PST by Sig Sauer P220 (There ought to be one day -- just one -- when there is open season on Senators --- Will Rogers)
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  • REDIFF INTERVIEW: Tristan James Mabry



    EXCERPT:

    I met the Archbishop of Orissa.

    Mar Cheenath?

    Yes. I did some research before I went to talk to him and realised that the struggle between the Kandas and the Panas is very old. And you have an element of the difference between a Scheduled Caste and a Scheduled Tribe, but you also have the difference between ethno-linguistic groups.

    So the Kandas and the Panas have been in ethnic conflict since before the foundation of India. You had a subordinate group, the Panas, who benefited from British rule -- and that's the same that happened with the Muslims in north India. They got a leg-up that they would not have without the British.

    But they (the British) always do that. Well, I'm a dual citizen with Ireland and see, they took a minority of the Protestants and they gave them power. But a minority that has power is yours. You own them. If you ever take away their power they are in deep trouble because they are a minority. So they gave the Panas authority, which really troubled the Kandas because they were of upper status. But the Panas got that power possibly because they converted to Christianity.

    Here we are 60 years later, and it is suddenly been redefined not as an ethnic conflict, but as a religious conflict between the Hindus and the Christians.

    I actually asked the archbishop, 'Look, this looks to me like a classic ethnic conflict, and it's been taken over by the Hindutva group to call it a religious conflict because it helps stir up passions and makes them the Hindutva group more prominent'.

    But the archbishop also has an interest, because of his position in the church, to call it a religious conflict. That way he can depend on support from Rome. So he's kind of playing into the Hindutva group's game a bit. Anyway, it's that kind of conflict which is the biggest threat to Indian civic national identity.

    But it is nowhere near as problematic as the same kind of issues in Pakistan.

    http://specials.rediff.com/news/2009/feb/19slid3-pak-break-up-benefits-India-in-long-term.htm


9 posted on 03/02/2009 12:26:42 PM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: Coleus; Squantos

The way I see it, I only got 4 cheeks, after that all bets are off.


10 posted on 03/02/2009 12:42:37 PM PST by TEXASPROUD
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I read the other day of a "scholar" who claimed that the number of ancient martyrs was probably very small and that we probably know the names of most of them. That just doesn't fit with what we know of opposition to the Gospel in our present day. Millions have been martyred for Christ within our lifetime. Is our era alone really so unique with the waves of persecution and the atrocities going on in so many places? I doubt it, because human nature doesn't change.

May the love of those whose blood is shed reach the hearts of those who bear it on their hands, for in Christ alone is forgiveness and reconciliation with God for life eternal.

11 posted on 03/02/2009 12:44:54 PM PST by Liberty1970 (Democrats are not in control. God is. And Thank God for that!)
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The trick is to make the other poor bastard die for his sins. A slight change to a quote from Gen. Patton
12 posted on 03/02/2009 1:18:43 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Leyte Gulf Beach Club)
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Seems like ‘em yindoos are learning from the muslims that violence and aggression pay. Its easy to parachute into Hindu land and preach to the Hindus that they’ll all burn in Hell. Can’t see the same happening in Muslim lands simply because the preachers would burn on earth before they got too far. And to preserve their majority, their numbers and their way of life, which, as far as I know, doesn’t deny anyone the right to heaven based on belief, but only of actions (’good karma’), seems like some yindus have learned the wrong lessons.

Even so it seems uncharacteristic of the yindoos to indulge in wanton mobbery. As a rule its difficult to organize them to get anything done for a Hindu cause, such are the divisions within their society.

Disclaimer: I’m an atheist. An agnostic at best. And their belief system has place even for folks like me. I wish the broader, peaceable Hindu community well.


16 posted on 03/03/2009 5:27:01 PM PST by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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To: NYer; narses

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17 posted on 03/03/2009 5:33:31 PM PST by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
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