[Michael Michael]

I don’t think the Founders would have added the clause “or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution” That clause grandfathered in those who were not born in the Colonies.

No, it grandfathered in those who WERE born in the colonies. Not those who WEREN'T.

To be a natural born citizen of the United States, you have to be born IN the United States. None of the founding fathers were born in the United States. The United States didn't exist when they were born. Instead they were born in the colonies.

When we declared independence from England, they became citizens of the United States, but not natural born citizens. Because again, to be a natural born citizen of the United States you have to be born in the United States, and yet again, there was no United States at the the founders were born.

Because they weren't natural born citizens of the United States, they had to be grandfathered in. And that's what the clause you quote above did. Otherwise, Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Madison and so on down to about John Tyler would not be constitutionally eligible to hold the office of President.

Those who WERE born in the United States, were natural born citizens of the United States. And it didn't matter whether your father was an English subject. Under the jus solis of the English common law, your allegiance was tied to where you were born, not who your parents were.

[DJ MacWoW]

None of the founding fathers were born in the United States. The United States didn't exist when they were born. Instead they were born in the colonies.

That is spew. It doesn't matter what this soil was called, they were born here . They risked everything for this land. They wanted men who did not have divided loyalties. One foreign parent could cause such a case. Having foreign family could be volatile.

You are a noob trolling Obama threads. Are you a troll or a retread?

[Velveeta]

No, it grandfathered in those who WERE born in the colonies. Not those who WEREN'T.

No way!

A. I admit I'll have to go break out my history books.

If I recall, most of the Framers were born on what would eventually become US soil - i.e. the Colonies.

Some of them were born overseas England, Ireland?, Scotland? - boy I'm rusty in the memory department.

It was those who were foreign born who were grandfathered in. The Framers were excluding those with allegiances to foreign countries from the point of the signing of the Constitution forward.

Do you think the Framers would consider Bobby Jindal eligible to the Presidency?

[mojitojoe]

How come you only post on the bc threads and how come you show up at the same time as curiosity and non? A little odd. Tell Shauna to dock your check, you’re talking points are getting boring.